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re: Big 12 Championship - Kansas State 31 , TCU 28 - Final, OT. Duggan gave best. Not enough

Posted on 12/3/22 at 1:20 pm to
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
36931 posts
Posted on 12/3/22 at 1:20 pm to
Rule book needs to change. Shouldn’t matter if arm is moving forward if defender makes contact with ball before it leaves the hand.

That should be the literal definition of a forced fumble
Posted by G The Tiger Fan
Member since Apr 2015
116178 posts
Posted on 12/3/22 at 1:21 pm to
Well, that drive didn't take long.
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
38398 posts
Posted on 12/3/22 at 1:21 pm to
Ball don’t lie
Posted by Joe Mantegna
knoxville
Member since Oct 2007
9570 posts
Posted on 12/3/22 at 1:21 pm to
Well, nevermind
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
29609 posts
Posted on 12/3/22 at 1:21 pm to
Hold on, the ball landed behind the QB. So even if it was a “pass,” shouldn’t it have been a live ball?
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 12/3/22 at 1:21 pm to
K states offense is 2019 LSU at times. They've been fun to watch this year.
Posted by BamaNme
Dothan AL
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 12/3/22 at 1:21 pm to
Wow!
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171955 posts
Posted on 12/3/22 at 1:21 pm to
No, has to be thrown backwards
Posted by Marktastic86
Pismo Beach, CA
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 12/3/22 at 1:21 pm to
A bit of justice for KState
Posted by usc6158
Member since Feb 2008
38619 posts
Posted on 12/3/22 at 1:21 pm to
Bama to the playoffs
Posted by G The Tiger Fan
Member since Apr 2015
116178 posts
Posted on 12/3/22 at 1:21 pm to
quote:

Rule book needs to change. Shouldn’t matter if arm is moving forward if defender makes contact with ball before it leaves the hand.
I agree. Makes no sense. Bad rule but if that's the rule, then the right call was made.
This post was edited on 12/3/22 at 1:22 pm
Posted by Downeast12
Member since Jun 2022
908 posts
Posted on 12/3/22 at 1:21 pm to
Does anyone know what the hell a fumble or possession is anymore? No consistency from week to week and year to year. Mond has a finger on the ball with knee down, that’s possession.

In Duggan situation, ball goes backwards with a full hand on the ball when it’s knocked out, and that’s not possession enough to be ruled a fumble?
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
36931 posts
Posted on 12/3/22 at 1:22 pm to
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Hold on, the ball landed behind the QB. So even if it was a “pass,” shouldn’t it have been a live ball?


You would think. I’m very confused by this actual rule now
Posted by KillerNut9
Pearl Jam
Member since Dec 2007
34807 posts
Posted on 12/3/22 at 1:22 pm to
I’m starting to think it’s going to be Ohio State and Michigan at 2/3. Please let this happen.
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
38398 posts
Posted on 12/3/22 at 1:22 pm to
The argument would be it’s essentially a “tip” I guess.

Stupid but only justification I could see
Posted by Dubosed
Gulf Breeze
Member since Nov 2012
7574 posts
Posted on 12/3/22 at 1:22 pm to
Kansas State OC is calling a great game.
Posted by BananaManCan
Member since Sep 2009
4353 posts
Posted on 12/3/22 at 1:22 pm to
It's funny watching these gumps white knight for Kansas state. Bama ain't making the playoffs even with a loss lmfao
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171955 posts
Posted on 12/3/22 at 1:22 pm to
quote:

Shouldn’t matter if arm is moving forward if defender makes contact with ball before it leaves the hand.

That should be the literal definition of a forced fumble


Yep. Can't throw it if the defender literally knocked it loose.
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
29609 posts
Posted on 12/3/22 at 1:22 pm to
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No, has to be thrown backwards


I mean it wasn’t a throw at all, but if you’re saying it was a throw the only direction the ball went was backwards.
This post was edited on 12/3/22 at 1:24 pm
Posted by Othello
the Neptonian Steel Mines
Member since Aug 2013
24956 posts
Posted on 12/3/22 at 1:23 pm to
That TD was karma for the bad call!
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