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re: Better head coach: Urban Meyer or Dabo Swinney?
Posted on 12/14/18 at 12:32 pm to CivilTiger83
Posted on 12/14/18 at 12:32 pm to CivilTiger83
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Character issues that we now know were fueled by a culture Meyer created.
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Posted on 12/14/18 at 12:35 pm to RollTide1987
Currently?
Dabo
Career wise? Urban for now
Dabo
Career wise? Urban for now
Posted on 12/14/18 at 12:49 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Displaced, there were several articles that came out a couple years post Urban at Florida that talked about a toxic locker room culture with coaches looking the other way for star players and discipline issues.
Urban is a great coach, but there have been enough things that have come up with him from the past that make you wonder if the baggage that comes with him is worth it all.
Urban is a great coach, but there have been enough things that have come up with him from the past that make you wonder if the baggage that comes with him is worth it all.
Posted on 12/14/18 at 12:53 pm to CivilTiger83
Let's get this out of way - Aaron Hernandez was never charged or arrested for anything during his time at UF. But Urban should've kicked him off the team anyhow?
Posted on 12/14/18 at 1:03 pm to CivilTiger83
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Displaced, there were several articles that came out a couple years post Urban at Florida that talked about a toxic locker room culture with coaches looking the other way for star players and discipline issues.
Neat. So you're saying Florida was looking for someone to blame because their program fell on its face.
Posted on 12/14/18 at 1:25 pm to RollTide1987
Posted on 12/14/18 at 1:27 pm to Korin
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Let's get this out of way - Aaron Hernandez was never charged or arrested for anything during his time at UF. But Urban should've kicked him off the team anyhow?
Yeah I didn't hint at or mention Hernandez. He wasn't the only problem on that team.
There were a lot of UF fans on here throwing Urban under the bus after he left and these articles came out.
Why so defensive?
Posted on 12/14/18 at 1:41 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Neat. So you're saying Florida was looking for someone to blame because their program fell on its face.
You must be a treat to be around.
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Former players, though, contend it was the foundation of Florida’s culture under Meyer. In the season opener against Hawaii, Meyer said a few elite players (including wideout Percy Harvin, linebacker Brandon Spikes and tight end Aaron Hernandez) would miss the game with injuries. According to multiple sources, the three players—all critical factors in Florida’s rise under Meyer—failed drug tests for marijuana and were sitting out as part of standard university punishment.
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It only got worse as Harvin’s career progressed. At one point during the 2008 season, multiple sources confirmed that Harvin, now a prominent member of the Minnesota Vikings, physically attacked wide receivers coach Billy Gonzales, grabbing him by the neck and throwing him to the ground. Harvin had to be pulled off Gonzales by two assistant coaches—but was never disciplined.
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The biggest impact, former players say, was for those in the Circle of Trust. It wasn’t so much a focus on trust as it was a revelation of talent. If you could play and contribute, you were part of the chosen few.
“(Meyer) lost the team’s respect,” Thomas said. “That kind of stuff spreads through the players. They see what they can get away with, and they push it. Even the star players; they liked him because they were in the Circle of Trust. But it backfired on him. They didn’t respect him.”
Posted on 12/14/18 at 1:46 pm to RollTide1987
Venables is an absolute stud and worth every penny of the 2mil they pay him. Idk if hes a Beamer type with little interest in a HC spot, but lets talk about daboo if he fails to replace him with another guy like that
Posted on 12/14/18 at 2:22 pm to CivilTiger83
Welcome to the Internet, sport. 
Random copy/paste without citation is no more compelling than your initial claims. Give it another shot.
Aside from that, most of what you posted is speculative garbage, particularly the shite with Harvin.
Percy Harvin Fight Never Happened, Says Billy Gonzales
Random copy/paste without citation is no more compelling than your initial claims. Give it another shot.
Aside from that, most of what you posted is speculative garbage, particularly the shite with Harvin.
Percy Harvin Fight Never Happened, Says Billy Gonzales
Posted on 12/14/18 at 2:29 pm to CivilTiger83
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Yeah I didn't hint at or mention Hernandez. He wasn't the only problem on that team.
There were a lot of UF fans on here throwing Urban under the bus after he left and these articles came out.
Why so defensive?
There is no reason to be upset.
Posted on 12/14/18 at 2:32 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Random copy/paste without citation is no more compelling than your initial claims. Give it another shot.
You mean the post before where I linked to that article?
What does the coach gain from saying it did happen? Of course he is going to say that.
Posted on 12/14/18 at 2:38 pm to CivilTiger83
Correct. It's all speculative nonsense.
What does he have to gain from denying it? He wasn't even with the program at the time, was he?
This reminds me an awful lot of Brett McMurphy's brand of "journalism." He just tosses some shite out based on almost nothing. Meanwhile, those who were actually present dispute it.
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What does the coach gain from saying it did happen? Of course he is going to say that.
What does he have to gain from denying it? He wasn't even with the program at the time, was he?
This reminds me an awful lot of Brett McMurphy's brand of "journalism." He just tosses some shite out based on almost nothing. Meanwhile, those who were actually present dispute it.
Posted on 12/14/18 at 2:44 pm to CivilTiger83
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You mean the post before where I linked to that article?
What does the coach gain from saying it did happen? Of course he is going to say that.
Do you really wanna go down the speculation rabbit hole as a Clemson fan?
Posted on 12/14/18 at 2:51 pm to CivilTiger83
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Urban is a great coach, but there have been enough things that have come up with him from the past that make you wonder if the baggage that comes with him is worth it all.
As a south carolina fan who's never had a national title.... the baggage is WELL worth it.
Posted on 12/14/18 at 2:52 pm to Korin
Dabo
If not for the Bama Juggernaut, he would have 3 straight titles. And he has beaten one of those teams for a title.
Meyer is a great coach, and a huge Piece of shite. Anyone who defends his character are retarded.
Meyer with info given to him, that Hernandez was a thug and was tied 2 a murder or 2 in Connecticut, still brought him 2 gainsville, where he then killed at least 2 other people.
He also faked a heart ailment in the biggest puss puss move in CFB history to run from Saban.
His team was littered with Arrests, he made the Fulmer Cup an annual trophy.
If not for the Bama Juggernaut, he would have 3 straight titles. And he has beaten one of those teams for a title.
Meyer is a great coach, and a huge Piece of shite. Anyone who defends his character are retarded.
Meyer with info given to him, that Hernandez was a thug and was tied 2 a murder or 2 in Connecticut, still brought him 2 gainsville, where he then killed at least 2 other people.
He also faked a heart ailment in the biggest puss puss move in CFB history to run from Saban.
His team was littered with Arrests, he made the Fulmer Cup an annual trophy.
This post was edited on 12/14/18 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 12/14/18 at 2:54 pm to SeeeeK
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Anyone who defends his character are retarded.
Posted on 12/14/18 at 2:58 pm to SeeeeK
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Meyer with info given to him, that Hernandez was a thug and was tied 2 a murder or 2 in Connecticut, still brought him 2 gainsville, where he then killed at least 2 other people.
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he made the Fulmer Cup an annual trophy.
Never won it. The closest we came was under McElwain.
Posted on 12/14/18 at 3:05 pm to Korin
LOL
i knew we would get a retarded gator fan to come in and defend Meyer.
i knew we would get a retarded gator fan to come in and defend Meyer.
Posted on 12/14/18 at 3:10 pm to SeeeeK
Show us on the doll where Urban apparently touched you.
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