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re: Best Starting Five, 96 Bulls or 11 Heat
Posted on 12/15/11 at 11:11 pm to LSUtigersarefun
Posted on 12/15/11 at 11:11 pm to LSUtigersarefun
He was voted to 50 greatest players. Which itself was sort of a reach. He was very good but not a top 20 player of all time. What a joke.
Rodman good rebounder and defender. But had "legit inside game"? No
Luc longley sucked. What planet are you from?
Rodman good rebounder and defender. But had "legit inside game"? No
Luc longley sucked. What planet are you from?
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Posted on 12/15/11 at 11:15 pm to PapaPogey
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Bulls have the hardware...AND the record for wins in a season No brainer.
FIFY
Posted on 12/15/11 at 11:19 pm to Lester Earl
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He was voted to 50 greatest players. Which itself was sort of a reach. He was very good but not a top 20 player of all time. What a joke.
Did you read the accomplishments of pippen he is deserving of his rating in the top 50, but I guess Lester earl is better at picking the greatest players of all time. Much better than the NBA.
This post was edited on 12/15/11 at 11:21 pm
Posted on 12/15/11 at 11:23 pm to Pistol...2K4
Not even close. The Bulls were a team, who could smother you on D, and then blow you away on O. The Heat can be hot, and then can end up being cold as hell. Lebron is still a kid, when things don't go his way he wilts and throws tantrums, Wade is a much better team mate, but he can't do it alone, Bosh is great, but he isn't on either of those two's level. The rest of the team can simply stay home.
The Bulls were a great team, they were solid top to bottom. However, the greatest part of that team was obviously Michael. He would not let the team lose. His will was so strong, he would never back down. Could you imagine Lebron ever doing anything close to what Jordan did while sick as hell with the flu? Not in this life time. The Bulls would have crushed the Heat in a seven game series. I'd say, 4 to 2 easily.
The Bulls were a great team, they were solid top to bottom. However, the greatest part of that team was obviously Michael. He would not let the team lose. His will was so strong, he would never back down. Could you imagine Lebron ever doing anything close to what Jordan did while sick as hell with the flu? Not in this life time. The Bulls would have crushed the Heat in a seven game series. I'd say, 4 to 2 easily.
Posted on 12/15/11 at 11:26 pm to Lester Earl
Pippen is definitely top 20 at his position which is really all that matters.
I'd also argue that Rodman's inside game is better than you are giving him credit for. He didn't score a ton, but he didn't get scored on much either and always out rebounded the opposing team. Not to mention he could get in people's heads like no other.
I'd also argue that Rodman's inside game is better than you are giving him credit for. He didn't score a ton, but he didn't get scored on much either and always out rebounded the opposing team. Not to mention he could get in people's heads like no other.
Posted on 12/15/11 at 11:34 pm to Lester Earl
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Ron Harper good at that point in his career?
He was. The year before he joined Chicage he averaged 20 points, 6 rebounds, 4.5 assists and 2 steals. He just went from being one of the best players on a bad Clippers team to being the 5th option on the Bulls.
Posted on 12/15/11 at 11:45 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
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Pippen is definitely top 20 at his position which is really all that matters.
Top 20 at his position is different from him saying he is a top 20 player of all time. I have mad respect for Pippen, but he was never that good.
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I'd also argue that Rodman's inside game is better than you are giving him credit for. He didn't score a ton, but he didn't get scored on much either and always out rebounded the opposing team. Not to mention he could get in people's heads like no other.
Well, when i hear inside game i think offense. Rodman was a great team player and did all the dirty work. Never a guy that could carry a team though.
Posted on 12/15/11 at 11:49 pm to ZTiger87
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He was. The year before he joined Chicage he averaged 20 points, 6 rebounds, 4.5 assists and 2 steals. He just went from being one of the best players on a bad Clippers team to being the 5th option on the Bulls.
bloated by playing a ton of minutes on a bad team. He was never an efficient player. Generally a compiler who really couldn't shoot. good leader, decent defender.
Posted on 12/15/11 at 11:52 pm to Lester Earl
At least he had a point. Bibby was good on a Sacramento team that had quite a bit of talent. He was above average to average on Atlanta. He was never at Harpers level at any point in his career. Chalmers, well he has been average, but then again he was never thought of as a high rated player/prospect and he has been about average playing on a team of superstars. Harper and Bibby are similar in the sense that they were never superstars, but I would go as far to say that Bibby was a poor mans Harper. Bibby only averaged one season over 20 points. Harper had 5. Yes Harper was old by the time 96 rolled around, but he didn't have to score with the team that the Bulls had. Bibby is still needed to score and that was proven in the playoffs, because the Heat never had the defense that the Bulls had. And when you don't have the defense, you need to score more which the Heat didn't do efficiently.
Posted on 12/16/11 at 12:03 am to WILDTURKEYisgood
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96 bulls > fisher, kobe, fox, horry, shaq > heat
Posted on 12/16/11 at 12:06 am to bomber77
If it hasn't already been stated 72-10 is a feat we probably will never see duplicated in the NBA
Posted on 12/16/11 at 12:19 am to Lester Earl
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bloated by playing a ton of minutes on a bad team. He was never an efficient player. Generally a compiler who really couldn't shoot. good leader, decent defender.
Your whole point was that he wasn't good because of his age. That simply isn't true. He was a good player during the Bulls' 2nd three-peat.
Posted on 12/16/11 at 12:41 am to bomber77
The Bulls would win, so them.
But on paper, it's pretty close.
But on paper, it's pretty close.
Posted on 12/16/11 at 1:00 am to TulaneTigerFan
TulaneTigerFan, the biggest lebron ballsucker on tigerdroppings.
Posted on 12/16/11 at 1:19 am to DrVinnyBoombatz
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Chalmers, well he has been average, but then again he was never thought of as a high rated player/prospect
chalmers is probably better than he should be. he's pretty damn decent. emphasis on decent.
Posted on 12/16/11 at 1:26 am to Clemens
Oh cool. Clemens is here.
Posted on 12/16/11 at 1:34 am to BayouBengals03
Hey guy. With exception of the Lebron worshiping that I'll have to deal with from you and Tulane, I am stoked that the NBA is about to get rolling.
Edit: Also, well done on the L.A. thread. Nice to see that you're already in midseason form in your Kobe-bashing.
Edit: Also, well done on the L.A. thread. Nice to see that you're already in midseason form in your Kobe-bashing.
This post was edited on 12/16/11 at 1:37 am
Posted on 12/16/11 at 1:41 am to Clemens
It's not LeBron worshiping. It's just recognizing who the best player in basketball is.
Posted on 12/16/11 at 1:50 am to BayouBengals03
I'm a changed man, my friend. I acknowledge Lebron is the most talented player. However, still think Lechoke is a fitting nickname given last year's finals.
8 most talented:
1. Lebron
2. Dwade
3. Howard
4. Melo
5. CP3
6. Dirk
7. KD
8. Kobe
8 most talented:
1. Lebron
2. Dwade
3. Howard
4. Melo
5. CP3
6. Dirk
7. KD
8. Kobe
Posted on 12/16/11 at 1:51 am to BayouBengals03
And, speaking of recognizing, you need to recognize that Green Bay is the shhiiitttttttttttttt.
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