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re: Belmont Stakes week
Posted on 6/1/15 at 9:31 pm to diat150
Posted on 6/1/15 at 9:31 pm to diat150
Secretariat ran against 3 other horses in 1973, Affirmed was in a field of 5 total.
2006 - No triple crown - 12 horses
2007 - No TC - 7 horses
2008 - Big Brown Triple Crown hopeful, 9 horses
2009 - No TC - 10 horses
2010 - No TC - 11 horses
2011 - No TC - 12 horses
2012 - I'll Have Another scratched, 10 horses (1 DNF)
2013 - No TC - 14 horses
2014 - California Chrome TC hopeful, 9 horses (2 DNF)
2006 - No triple crown - 12 horses
2007 - No TC - 7 horses
2008 - Big Brown Triple Crown hopeful, 9 horses
2009 - No TC - 10 horses
2010 - No TC - 11 horses
2011 - No TC - 12 horses
2012 - I'll Have Another scratched, 10 horses (1 DNF)
2013 - No TC - 14 horses
2014 - California Chrome TC hopeful, 9 horses (2 DNF)
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Posted on 6/1/15 at 10:08 pm to KosmoCramer
cool. I think he has a great shot at pulling it off.
Posted on 6/1/15 at 10:26 pm to diat150
His answer was much better than mine 
Shame about the weather at evd last Saturday, diat. Thought about driving over to see power alert (been following him since he came over here), but when he decided not to ship in I changed my mind.
Shame about the weather at evd last Saturday, diat. Thought about driving over to see power alert (been following him since he came over here), but when he decided not to ship in I changed my mind.
Posted on 6/1/15 at 11:00 pm to PANTHER
Betting Frosted and Materiality. Both didn't run in the Preakness. Flying into New York Thursday for the race 
Posted on 6/1/15 at 11:10 pm to Enfuego
I hate you right now
Posted on 6/2/15 at 12:08 am to Aspercel
Before the 2 defections this morning, AP, with a win, would have faced the most horses in the history of the TC winners.
I think War Admiral faced 32 total. And AP will now face 31, if the other 7 make the gate.
By comparison, Affirmed beat 20 runners, Seattle Slew faced 29, and Secretariat 21. Count Fleet faced the fewest, 14.
I think War Admiral faced 32 total. And AP will now face 31, if the other 7 make the gate.
By comparison, Affirmed beat 20 runners, Seattle Slew faced 29, and Secretariat 21. Count Fleet faced the fewest, 14.
Posted on 6/2/15 at 12:10 am to PANTHER
I will be there to watch it. Hope it happens.
Posted on 6/2/15 at 6:57 am to TN_Tigers
I believe a Belmont field that produced a triple crown winner has never been larger than 8.
Pulling for AP but I won't be betting him. I have tough time seeing him go this distance against some of the fresh talent in this one. Maybe with a very very modest pace I can see him going wire to wire.
Pulling for AP but I won't be betting him. I have tough time seeing him go this distance against some of the fresh talent in this one. Maybe with a very very modest pace I can see him going wire to wire.
Posted on 6/2/15 at 6:58 am to Aspercel
quote:
Shame about the weather at evd last Saturday, diat. Thought about driving over to see power alert (been following him since he came over here), but when he decided not to ship in I changed my mind.
ive been a few times this season but have had 0 luck.
Posted on 6/2/15 at 7:16 am to Samso
I hate you too
I am a very bitter person right now
I am a very bitter person right now
Posted on 6/2/15 at 8:05 am to Aspercel
Based off of what I was hearing last year from Chrome's camp I thought he had a real shot. I guess I don't know racing like I thought or I want to see a TC so bad I hear what I want. That is why I asked the question of the true horse people and handicappers. Here is hoping paw paw Empire Maker can get AP the 1 1/2
This post was edited on 6/2/15 at 8:11 am
Posted on 6/2/15 at 8:18 am to PANTHER
#Ridin4AmericanPharoah
Posted on 6/2/15 at 9:44 am to PANTHER
I thing the Dubai horse is the only one bred for 1 1/2. Maybe materiality...
So as usual as of late, a bunch of very tired horses will stagger home
So as usual as of late, a bunch of very tired horses will stagger home
This post was edited on 6/2/15 at 9:45 am
Posted on 6/2/15 at 6:18 pm to PANTHER
I think he's going to do it. There is just something different about this horse. The way he carries himself, how down to business he is. He knows what he is, which is a badass. Reminds me of Zenyatta. The way he finished that last workout at Churchill, ears pricked, ready for more.
I think we will see history made Saturday. I was in high school and college for Secretariat, Slew, and Affirmed. Would never have believed at that time it would be 37 years until we saw it again.
I think we will see history made Saturday. I was in high school and college for Secretariat, Slew, and Affirmed. Would never have believed at that time it would be 37 years until we saw it again.
Posted on 6/2/15 at 6:41 pm to Aspercel
Why cant you still go? Were they paying for yall to go or something?
Posted on 6/2/15 at 9:36 pm to bigberg2000
I mean, I guess I could have gone by myself but I would have had nowhere to stay and would have had to hope to get a general admission ticket and be by myself all day. Not to mention renting a car and attempting to drive up there (he spent summers there so knows his way around).
He was going to fly up with the horse and I'd meet him there, stay with his extended family, and spend the whole day on the backside away from the crazy crowds.
He now has to stay at Churchill with the horses there...
He was going to fly up with the horse and I'd meet him there, stay with his extended family, and spend the whole day on the backside away from the crazy crowds.
He now has to stay at Churchill with the horses there...
This post was edited on 6/2/15 at 9:39 pm
Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:10 pm to Aspercel
Chrome could have won it last year if Vic would have shot to the lead. it wasn't that he wasn't ready that was a tactical error
Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:17 pm to vengeanceofrain
Eh. Not so sure about that one. He was tired horse.
Though, not having him pinned inside would have been a good thing. He was kinda climbing down the backstretch.
I had a 55% positive feeling about chrome winning. I'd say I feel about 70% with pharoah.
Though, not having him pinned inside would have been a good thing. He was kinda climbing down the backstretch.
I had a 55% positive feeling about chrome winning. I'd say I feel about 70% with pharoah.
This post was edited on 6/2/15 at 11:20 pm
Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:36 pm to Aspercel
Chrome also got hurt in the gate.
We've had a few lose by less than a length.
So... It's not impossible.
Fresh derby horses that skipped pimlico is kinda shitty, but moob, and materiality never factored in.
I've watched the last half of the derby several times... And frosted closed on everyone but AP. He only made up 1 length after the quarter pole.
It's really going to be up to victor if he wins or not. At this point it's more about tactics than a direct comparison of the horses.
We've had a few lose by less than a length.
So... It's not impossible.
Fresh derby horses that skipped pimlico is kinda shitty, but moob, and materiality never factored in.
I've watched the last half of the derby several times... And frosted closed on everyone but AP. He only made up 1 length after the quarter pole.
It's really going to be up to victor if he wins or not. At this point it's more about tactics than a direct comparison of the horses.
Posted on 6/3/15 at 7:51 am to Mahootney
Mubtaahij also had a crazy tough ship over. He's been here since and has been working frequently and well at Belmont. He's even changing leads in the stretch now. Gets a local rider too. I'm definitely playing him in exotics.
This post was edited on 6/3/15 at 7:52 am
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