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re: Baylor has fired Art Briles

Posted on 5/26/16 at 11:23 am to
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 11:23 am to
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doubt seriously that Baylor/Briles have the reach to affect that local PD/DA


You don't know Waco
Posted by sjmabry
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 11:23 am to
Briles is a legend in Texas. He'll bounce back at a small HS or something.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 11:23 am to
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You keep focusing on playing time and not the school's role in investigating these things.

that's the job of the police

and even if you want to say it's up to the school, that's not Briles

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Gag ordering this stuff to suppress it,

that's the court system, not Baylor

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Armstead's timeline is pretty alarming. Not reopening investigations when criminal charges are brought is a massive red flag.

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Armstead was expelled from school in February 2016 over the 2013 allegations.
Armstead maintains his innocence and has said he is contemplating a lawsuit against the school for their handling of the incident.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
63974 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 11:23 am to
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Not saying this didn't need to happen, but the year I was in the locker room at BU with Briles as my coach he did nothing but instruct me the right way. That was back in 2009 so obviously things changed, but leave it to a bunch of grown arse men on the internet to judge a man without ever even meeting him.



While that may be true, you can see things going on, and ignore those things while still instructing in the way you describe. There's more involved in running a football program than simply saying words, wouldn't you agree? There's an attitude, a culture, and somehow a very disgusting culture grew right underneath his nose. I don't think he's a bad guy, but this shite grew right underneath him. If he didn't know this was going on, why pay him all of that money? What's the point of having a great football coach if these things will happen as a result of having said coach?

With that being said, its hard to feel sorry for Briles, he got paid handsomely, and will likely continue to be paid more than handsomely.
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
Member since Aug 2009
25057 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 11:24 am to
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Baylor needs someone with strong morals leading their program like Steve Sarkisian


if there is a group powerful enough to monitor his drinking, it's a baptist college in waco


They did a horrible job monitoring rape. I don't think I'd trust the school's administration to monitor anything at this point.

As someone said already, Briles is the scapegoat here. Ken Starr was the enabler, and he needs to go as well.
Posted by therick711
South
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 11:25 am to
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that's the job of the police

and even if you want to say it's up to the school, that's not Briles


The Title IX stuff is not the job of the police. Jesus Christ.
This post was edited on 5/26/16 at 3:01 pm
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
52350 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 11:25 am to
Saban to Baylor.



I heard Terry was in Waco looking at houses. Seriously.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 11:26 am to
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You don't know Waco


Abeline is not in the same county/district as Waco

now if you say BU has influence in Waco? OK

do they have reach to get into other areas? c'mon
Posted by BeYou
DFW
Member since Oct 2012
6036 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 11:26 am to
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You're skimming needs some refinement. Look at what they did in response in their investigations. You keep focusing on playing time and not the school's role in investigating these things. Armstead's timeline is pretty alarming. Not reopening investigations when criminal charges are brought is a massive red flag. Gag ordering this stuff to suppress it, the whole gamut.


Armstead is now suing Baylor for kicking him out without him being convicted of a crime.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
62186 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 11:26 am to
Fire up the tracker
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 11:26 am to
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You don't know Waco


quote:

doubt seriously that Baylor/Briles have the reach to affect that local PD/DA


My dad was a Texas Ranger and a U.S. Marshall in Mclennan county, and he's always said ANYTHING can happen with law enforcement there.
This post was edited on 5/26/16 at 11:28 am
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
43819 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 11:27 am to
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Baylor has fired Art Briles


I don't blame them. Baylor needs to clean house.
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
Member since Aug 2009
25057 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 11:27 am to
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Their academic/moral reputation actually matters to Baylor alumni



Seriously? Baylor alumni were willing to sell their collective souls for wins on a football field.

Another example of talking the talk, not walking the walk.

Born agains gonna born again....
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
62186 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 11:27 am to
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do they have reach to get into other areas? c'mon
From what I understand from Texans, Baylor has the most pervasive statewide reach and influence outside of UTa
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465076 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 11:28 am to
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The Title IX stuff is not the job of the police.

well that's a shitty policy of the Obama administration. probably one of the worst domestic policies of his reign

these investigations SHOULD be handled by the police because they are criminal
This post was edited on 5/26/16 at 11:32 am
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
26097 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 11:29 am to
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well that's a shitty policy of the Obama administration. probably one of the worst domestic policies of his reign

and that reg was issued in

these investigations SHOULD be handled by the police because they are criminal


Well until you're installed as prince of the principality, they have a duty to conduct those investigations. Them abdicating that responsibility because SFP thinks it is a bad idea means nothing.
This post was edited on 5/26/16 at 11:30 am
Posted by Hot Carl
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Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 11:29 am to
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briles comes off as one of those "good ole baw" types that players love


Maybe in Texas. He comes off as too gruff and ornery to me. I don't think he could recruit the type guys we do.
Posted by XKEnut
Member since Jan 2010
1852 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 11:29 am to
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He'd have to lay low for a while before he could ever set foot in another major program IMO. I can't see anybody wanting to touch him now.


Briles will be paying defense lawyers for a long time, remember he was named personally in the lawsuit filed by one rape victim last month. I would imagine there will be more since that dude raped at least 6 before going to prison.

Kendall Briles was selling condos in Houston before Art got the Baylor gig. Young, very little experience and a nobody without Daddy.

It's a sorry family, I know them all, Briles and his wife, Kendall and daughters. A really sorry, low class bunch of people.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
72921 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 11:30 am to
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I heard Terry was in Waco looking at houses. Seriously.


They are having a sit down with Chip and Joe as we speak. Fixer Upper 4 part episode in the works. Flipping old BlueBell factory into Saban mini-mansion.

6 truckloads of shiplap already enroute
This post was edited on 5/26/16 at 11:32 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465076 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 11:31 am to
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Well until you're installed as prince of the principality, they have a duty to conduct those investigations. Them abdicating that responsibility because SFP thinks it is a bad idea means nothing.

you think that universities should be handling criminal investigations?
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