re: ATL Thread | offseason hot takes + discussion

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Grissom is more than serviceable with a tremendous upside.

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Tell me about his tremendous upside as a shortstop.

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Rosario/Ozuna is certainly serviceable as well with an opportunity to ride a hot hand.

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This some true head in the sand stuff here.

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We should have paid some outside guy twice as much as we are paying any member of the core of our team.

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Never said that. But our big trade probably should've addressed a need.

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Our “fans” are the fricking worst.

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Yeah, and the gatekeeping is the worst part of it. Heaven forbid someone question what we're doing this offseason.


But back to the question at hand. Tell me about Vaughn's tremendous upside at SS. Had you said LF, I'd be more inclined to agree with you.

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Every team will have a weakness.

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But we added a weakness this offseason.

SS went from strength to biggest question mark. Like that's not even up for debate.


The two easiest questions to ask about this offseason (so far) is did we get better or worse as a team? And did our direct competitors (Phillies/Mets) get better or worse as a team?

For me, so far this offseason, we've gotten worse as a team... still good mind you.

As for the Phillies/Mets, I think the Mets got better with their pitching staff and the Phillies got better with the Trea Turner move.

It's a cause for concern. Does that mean I don't think we can win the East or the World Series? Of course it doesn't. But our margin for error (injuries/slumps) has gotten smaller so far this offseason.

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But the onus to improve is on PHI and the Mets to catch the Braves

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Ehhh, the Phillies dominated us in the playoffs and made the World Series. I think we need to catch up to them as much as they need to catch up to us. And they responded by signing a noted Braves murderer.

The Mets finished tied with us and responded by bringing in a Cy Young winner.


ETA: As for my question about winning the World Series, isn't that what this should all be about now? Like our window is now, especially with Fried still under contract before we let him walk.

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The Phillies/Mets also signed those players to ridiculous contracts.

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From the Mets perspective that doesn't really matter. MLB literally created a new Lux Tax penalty for Steve Cohen last year and he made sure to pass that this year.

They may as well be operating with unlimited funds. Just this offseason, they've eclipse $700m when you include the tax penalties.

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I’m fine with a downgrade at SS to not sign a bad contract.

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Not sure how many times this has to be said, but no one on here is saying we should've signed Dansby to that. Just would've been nice to trade for a SS or LF when we scraped the last pieces of our farm, instead of for a position where we were already set for the next 2-3 years.

Also, I never want us to be giving out ridiculous contracts, but it'd be nice if we spent more than $2.4m in the offseason. Especially after the organization wanted everyone to know how much the Battery was making this past year.

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Utilityman Brandon Drury and the Los Angeles Angels are in agreement on a two-year, $17 million contract, sources familiar with the deal tell ESPN. Drury, 30, won the Silver Slugger at the utility position last year and is the third bat the Angels have acquired this winter.

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frick, was hoping we could've signed him for LF... and $8.5m AAV is cheap.

I'd take him over Jordan Luplow, but I wouldn't pay him as much as the Angels paid for Drury.

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two-year, $17 million contract

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If this is considered too much to spend on a solid position player like Drury, I don’t know, man. Charlie Morton is worth $20MM a year to AA. The man uses some weird calculus at times.

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If this is considered too much to spend on a solid position player like Drury, I don’t know, man. Charlie Morton is worth $20MM a year to AA. The man uses some weird calculus at times.

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The A's signed a dude today to a 1yr/$3m and with that one deal, passed us up on money spent this offseason.

Let that sink in for a second.

Not sure what we're waiting on, all the big names are gone, so it's not like there are anymore deals out there that would change up the market and allow us to get a cheaper deal on a player.

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When has two of the biggest stars on a team left in the middle of a so called window and the team just continued on and won or even went to another World Series?

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