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re: Athlonsports:CFB's Top Fifty QBs of the BCS Era

Posted on 3/25/13 at 4:21 pm to
Posted by Billy Mays
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Posted on 3/25/13 at 4:21 pm to
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I don't understand ranking VY ahead of Tebow. Tebow led his team to two NCs in the toughest conference in the country. VY was unbelievable but simply has a shorter resume.

And if it is just a list ranking who was the best for a single year (which is the only way I can see ranking VY ahead of Tebow) then Cam Newton should unequivocally be ranked in the top 3 IMO


this
Posted by bamafan425
Jackson's Hole
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Posted on 3/25/13 at 4:24 pm to
The list has almost no consistent rating rubric.
Posted by lsuhunt555
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Posted on 3/25/13 at 4:25 pm to
The fact that Jamarcus Russell isnt on that list is almost as big a joke that Vince Young is number 1. I mean come on, Russell wasn't as good/better than Chad Pennington? Tyrod Taylor? Todd Reesing? Jason fricking White? I know the guy was an awful Pro, but that shouldn't affect his legitimacy as a college QB. Im not saying he was top 10, but not even top 50? Completely invalidates this list.
Posted by CrippleCreek
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 3/25/13 at 4:26 pm to
Tebow was a part of 2 NC teams, but he only "led" the gators to 1 IMO.

VY has an undefeated season on his resume, and Tebow doesn't. I think it's close, but I don't think the first NC should be given very much weight. He was a fullback that season. Ryan Perilloux was more important to the LSU NC the next season, but nobody will ever say RP "led" LSU to the 2007 NC.
Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 3/25/13 at 4:26 pm to
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The top two quarterbacks are a cut above the rest as Tebow is the only player who can challenge Young for top honors.


ummm, Leinart?
Posted by CrippleCreek
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 3/25/13 at 4:27 pm to
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The fact that Jamarcus Russell isnt on that list is almost as big a joke that Vince Young is number 1. I mean come on, Russell wasn't as good/better than Chad Pennington? Tyrod Taylor? Todd Reesing? Jason fricking White? I know the guy was an awful Pro, but that shouldn't affect his legitimacy as a college QB. Im not saying he was top 10, but not even top 50? Completely invalidates this list.



He's not even on their "next 25" list.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 3/25/13 at 4:29 pm to
Rex Grossman is way too low @ 56.
Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
46374 posts
Posted on 3/25/13 at 4:29 pm to
Braxton Miller is on their top 50?!!?!@#?!@#?@!#?!@#@!!!!!!!!
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
39026 posts
Posted on 3/25/13 at 4:29 pm to
Russell career @ LSU - 493 attempts 797 Completions 61.9 pct 6625 yard 57 tds 21 ints

That doesnt even garner a "next 25"? Sorry, shitty list.
Posted by RandySavage
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 3/25/13 at 4:31 pm to
quote:

I don't understand ranking VY ahead of Tebow.


quote:

Tebow led his team to two NCs in the toughest conference in the country


This would be a good point if it were true.
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
39026 posts
Posted on 3/25/13 at 4:35 pm to
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This would be a good point if it were true.



Even if it's not true, which it is, 2 NCs >>>> 1 NC.
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
34684 posts
Posted on 3/25/13 at 4:42 pm to
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Even if it's not true, which it is, 2 NCs >>>> 1 NC.


He was the backup QB and used only in situational short yardage plays when the Gators won their first NC. Saying Tebow led the Gators to two NCs is like saying Steve Young led the 49ers to three Super Bowls or Ryan Perrilloux led LSU to the 2007 NC. Tebow did play an important role on the 2006 Gators but that was Chris Leak's team all the way.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
60263 posts
Posted on 3/25/13 at 4:43 pm to
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Even if it's not true, which it is


so you think Tebow "led" the gators to 2 titles? I could have sworn the first team was led by chris leak but maybe I'm wrong.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 3/25/13 at 4:45 pm to
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45. Tyrod Taylor, Virginia Tech Stats: 7,017 yds, 44 TD, 20 INT, 2,196 yds, 23 TD


even worse he is only 4 spots behind Geno Smith
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 3/25/13 at 4:45 pm to
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so you think Tebow "led" the gators to 2 titles? I could have sworn the first team was led by chris leak but maybe I'm wrong.



you aren't wrong.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216547 posts
Posted on 3/25/13 at 4:54 pm to
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16. Cam Newton, Florida/Auburn (2008, 2010)


16???????????????/ WOW.............

He did as much for AU in one year than VY did for Texas............
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 3/25/13 at 4:56 pm to
Jamarcus could've been way up there in an aggressive offense.
This post was edited on 3/25/13 at 4:57 pm
Posted by Rdbruin
Member since Jul 2011
108 posts
Posted on 3/25/13 at 4:58 pm to
No Cade Mcnown??? Not even on the next 25??? come on. I guess cause only a couple years were BCS
This post was edited on 3/25/13 at 4:59 pm
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
34684 posts
Posted on 3/25/13 at 5:02 pm to
I would equate to Cam Newton to Barry Sanders in college football. Both players were essentially one season wonders but they produced more in that one season than most players do in three or four. It also makes them really hard to rank in lists like these.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216547 posts
Posted on 3/25/13 at 5:07 pm to
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It also makes them really hard to rank in lists like these.


Ok but how many chances do you get to have a season like CAM did.... What he did was almost unreal........ Like VY he CARRIED his team to a national title. Without him THAT Year AU wins like 7-8 games............ Matt Lienart being that high is a joke... He was the benefit of having AMAZING talent around him.......
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