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ASUN and WAC to FBS ?
Posted on 12/9/22 at 9:11 am
Posted on 12/9/22 at 9:11 am
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The remaining football members of the Atlantic Sun and WAC have agreed to align to form the foundation of a 10-member football-only conference, sources told ESPN, with the intention of becoming the 11th FBS conference.
Sources said the founding documents for the league state the group intends to move "from what is currently known as FCS football to what is currently known as FBS football at the earliest practicable date."
The schools that have signed on to join the league are WAC football members Stephen F. Austin, Abilene Christian, Utah Tech, Southern Utah and Tarleton State and Atlantic Sun football members Austin Peay, Eastern Kentucky, Central Arkansas and North Alabama.
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This post was edited on 12/9/22 at 9:12 am
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Posted on 12/9/22 at 9:13 am to McMillan
If you're FBS, but you're not part of the CFP agreement like the rest of the P5+G5, are you really FBS?
Posted on 12/9/22 at 9:14 am to McMillan
So no one who has ever played a game at the highest level?
Posted on 12/9/22 at 9:27 am to McMillan
There are already too many FBS teams. They should have capped it at 130 or whatever it is now
Posted on 12/9/22 at 10:29 am to McMillan
FCS has really fallen apart. It’s just the MVC and Big Sky now. Every decent southern program is going FBS.
Posted on 12/9/22 at 10:38 am to McMillan
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Posted on 12/9/22 at 10:39 am to truthbetold
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If you're FBS, but you're not part of the CFP agreement like the rest of the P5+G5, are you really FBS?
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Why wouldn't they be part of the playoff? They wouldn't be all that much different than CUSA at this point.
This post was edited on 12/9/22 at 10:40 am
Posted on 12/9/22 at 10:53 am to Dr RC
Other than the fact that C-USA schools meet stadium size requirements, has existing FBS schools, meets sports requirements and is an existing FBS conference in relation to the CFP.
This hypothetical conference is seeking to be a single-sport (football) FBS conference. It is unprecedented and nothing like existing C-USA.
This hypothetical conference is seeking to be a single-sport (football) FBS conference. It is unprecedented and nothing like existing C-USA.
Posted on 12/9/22 at 11:00 am to Dr RC
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Why wouldn't they be part of the playoff? They wouldn't be all that much different than CUSA at this point.
It's a money grab by these schools now that they see the ten conferences and bowl/media partners have agreed to playoff expansion and what will amount to a very very large shared CFP payout to all FBS conferences. It'd be like if you got a huge commercial contract and right before you got your commission off it some guy transferred into your department and held their hand out saying I know I had no part in it, but I'm here now, pay me.
This post was edited on 12/9/22 at 11:01 am
Posted on 12/9/22 at 11:03 am to McMillan
Good for them!
Coastal Carolina moved to FBS in 2017 and Liberty moved to FBS in 2018.
Both have made appearances in the Top 25.
Liberty beat Arkansas this year.
Coastal was a favorite to beat Virginia (before they canceled the game) and has previously beat BYU.
That’s the blueprint that other schools can strive for.
If you have an issue with them joining, you are just insecure.
Coastal Carolina moved to FBS in 2017 and Liberty moved to FBS in 2018.
Both have made appearances in the Top 25.
Liberty beat Arkansas this year.
Coastal was a favorite to beat Virginia (before they canceled the game) and has previously beat BYU.
That’s the blueprint that other schools can strive for.
If you have an issue with them joining, you are just insecure.
This post was edited on 12/9/22 at 11:04 am
Posted on 12/9/22 at 11:03 am to TomRollTideRitter
OVC and the Big South will merge next year. So hopefully that stops the bleeding somewhat.
Posted on 12/9/22 at 11:36 am to UncleLester
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If you have an issue with them joining, you are just insecure.
I think its slightly more elaborate than that. For every App St or Coastal there is a Charlotte and Old Dominion. For Every Liberty or James Madison there is a Texas St and Georgia St. I can look at the 130 FBS teams and identify a dozen that should have never made the jump to FBS before I can identify a half dozen that would match Georgia Southern's FBS success much less the ones who have succeeded.
A poster earlier compared this conference to CUSA, this will be an entire conference of schools that didn't get an invite to join CUSA this last go around of realignment. Like I said earlier, it is a money grab by these institutions and will do nothing but water down the pool of teams outside of the elite conferences. We already have a CUSA that needs to elevate that at least has programs that have shown they can, why do we need another bottom feeder conference full of schools that history has shown two to three programs at most will even be viable?
Posted on 12/9/22 at 11:38 am to AwesomeSauce
Those FBS schools should go back to FCS.
Posted on 12/9/22 at 11:47 am to BZ504
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Those FBS schools should go back to FCS.
I agree. I think there should be 120 max FBS teams, not 142 or more. IMHO a program should show value and show they are willing to bear the financial burden of an Independent or be invited by an FBS conference to move up.
Posted on 12/9/22 at 11:55 am to AwesomeSauce
I just don't understand why it would bother anyone. If those schools want to spend more money on scholarships they should be allowed to. Why does it matter if some of them get the shite kicked out of them?
Posted on 12/9/22 at 11:58 am to Dr RC
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I just don't understand why it would bother anyone. If those schools want to spend more money on scholarships they should be allowed to. Why does it matter if some of them get the shite kicked out of them?
The people that don’t want it are insecure that their school will eventually get passed up in relevance by 2 or 3 of the 10 that join.
They prefer to keep it as a “limited club”.
Posted on 12/9/22 at 12:01 pm to Dr RC
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I just don't understand why it would bother anyone. If those schools want to spend more money on scholarships they should be allowed to. Why does it matter if some of them get the shite kicked out of them?
Because the group of five already gets scraps and this makes the slices of those scraps even slimmer. The AAC is a little better off for the founding members but look at the media deals for your new additions, the Sun Belt, the MAC and C-USA. Now compare that to the P5.
The G5 is going to get 25% to split amongst the five conferences. Nobody in the G5 wants to see that split to six conferences. And it won’t stop there if successful.
It’s so easy to say “Why do you even care?!” When you are a power five school with a ten billion dollar budget. You have to understand the financial dynamics of the group of five to understand why we are against it. There are too many mouths to feed as is without an entire conference jumping up to grab a slice of the ever-shrinking pie.
Posted on 12/9/22 at 12:10 pm to AwesomeSauce
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It's a money grab by these schools now that they see the ten conferences and bowl/media partners have agreed to playoff expansion and what will amount to a very very large shared CFP payout to all FBS conferences
Would the crumbs they would get from this, be more than the additional expenses of being FBS?
Not a single one of these schools has any busniness in the FBS. Of coruse, about half the schools in the FBS don't have any business in it, either.
Posted on 12/9/22 at 12:43 pm to McMillan
i wish MO state would go to FBS. There's no excuse for a state of 6 million to have just one.
Posted on 12/9/22 at 12:47 pm to msutiger
The pie is going to get bigger b/c the playoff will expand again and be more similar to FCS w/16 or 24. They are going to make too much money to not do it sooner than later.
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