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Are you surprised that the New York Yankees are stuck with 27 World Championships in 2018?
Posted on 6/3/18 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 6/3/18 at 12:41 pm
After October 26, 2000, in the midst of the 2000 Bush-Gore presidential battle and the NY Senate race of Hillary Clinton vs. Rick Lazio, the two-time defending World Series champions New York Yankees ruled the world. 26 World Championships, winning their 26th after beating the New York Mets in a low-rated Subway Series crosstown World Series.
One year later, weeks after the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, the Yankees were on their way to their fourth consecutive World Series championship (a Yankees four-peat) until Luis Gonzalez's walk-off hit over Yankees' closer Mariano Rivera that led the Arizona Diamondbacks to their first World Series championship in 2001.
In 2002: Lost ALDS to Anaheim Angels
In 2003: Won 39th AL pennant, lost World Series to Florida Marlins
In 2004: Lost ALCS in memorable collapse to Boston Red Sox
In 2005: Lost ALDS to Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim
In 2006: Lost ALDS to Detroit Tigers
In 2007: Lost ALDS to Cleveland Indians
In 2008: Missed playoffs for first time since ______, the Cathedral of Baseball (Yankee Stadium I) closes (1923-2008)
In 2009: Win 27th World Series Championship
In 2010: Lost ALCS to Texas Rangers
In 2011: Lost ALDS to Detroit Tigers, Jorge Posada retires
In 2012: Lost ALCS to Detroit Tigers
In 2013: Missed playoffs for first time since 2008, Mariano Rivera and Andy Pettite, part of Core Four of Yankees retires. Robinson Cano leaves Yanks for Mariners.
In 2014: Missed playoffs, the Captain, Derek Jeter, retires.
In 2015: Lost AL Wild Card to Astros
In 2016: Missed playoffs, Alex Rodriguez and Mark Teixiera retires.
In 2017: Start of the Baby Bombers/New Era/Rebuilding: Judge, Sanchez, Bird
Lost ALCS to Astros
With the talent that the Yankees have had over the past 15+ years, the Yankees should have had 28 to 33 championships by now. The 27th World Series championship should have been in 2001 or 2002.
Are you surprised that the Yankees are stuck with 27 World Series championships?
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One year later, weeks after the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, the Yankees were on their way to their fourth consecutive World Series championship (a Yankees four-peat) until Luis Gonzalez's walk-off hit over Yankees' closer Mariano Rivera that led the Arizona Diamondbacks to their first World Series championship in 2001.
In 2002: Lost ALDS to Anaheim Angels
In 2003: Won 39th AL pennant, lost World Series to Florida Marlins
In 2004: Lost ALCS in memorable collapse to Boston Red Sox
In 2005: Lost ALDS to Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim
In 2006: Lost ALDS to Detroit Tigers
In 2007: Lost ALDS to Cleveland Indians
In 2008: Missed playoffs for first time since ______, the Cathedral of Baseball (Yankee Stadium I) closes (1923-2008)
In 2009: Win 27th World Series Championship
In 2010: Lost ALCS to Texas Rangers
In 2011: Lost ALDS to Detroit Tigers, Jorge Posada retires
In 2012: Lost ALCS to Detroit Tigers
In 2013: Missed playoffs for first time since 2008, Mariano Rivera and Andy Pettite, part of Core Four of Yankees retires. Robinson Cano leaves Yanks for Mariners.
In 2014: Missed playoffs, the Captain, Derek Jeter, retires.
In 2015: Lost AL Wild Card to Astros
In 2016: Missed playoffs, Alex Rodriguez and Mark Teixiera retires.
In 2017: Start of the Baby Bombers/New Era/Rebuilding: Judge, Sanchez, Bird
Lost ALCS to Astros
With the talent that the Yankees have had over the past 15+ years, the Yankees should have had 28 to 33 championships by now. The 27th World Series championship should have been in 2001 or 2002.
Are you surprised that the Yankees are stuck with 27 World Series championships?
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Posted on 6/3/18 at 12:45 pm to mountaintop
Not really. The league is infinitely different than it was in the 20th century. There's a lot more money for everyone, there as lot more visibility for everyone, and teams are just ran better
Posted on 6/3/18 at 12:48 pm to mountaintop
No. 2/3 of their championships happened before 1960
Posted on 6/3/18 at 12:51 pm to craigbiggio
It’s really hard to win a World Series. Those Late 90s team were absolutely perfectly assembled
Posted on 6/3/18 at 12:54 pm to WestCoastAg
I hope the OP gets banned soon
Posted on 6/3/18 at 12:54 pm to mountaintop
No.
Posted on 6/3/18 at 12:56 pm to mountaintop
quote:Well that is a lie.... they should have beat the D-Backs but they trotted out Schilling and the Big Unit, they should have beat the Marlins but frick it. Other than that they were not really close and should not have won it.
With the talent that the Yankees have had over the past 15+ years, the Yankees should have had 28 to 33 championships by now.
Posted on 6/3/18 at 12:59 pm to tduecen
Don’t forget the massive choke against Boston
Posted on 6/3/18 at 1:03 pm to LL012697
quote:I try to forget that, that series I blame completely on Joe Torre
Don’t forget the massive choke against Boston
Posted on 6/3/18 at 1:10 pm to LL012697
To answer the OP though it is kinda surprising in the sense that they’ve spent over 3 billion dollars in payroll from 2004 to the present in what’s amounted to one pennant/championship. But at the same time it isn’t surprising because other than 2004 and maybe 2010, I’m not sure they were really the best team or should/could have won in any of those years. Although this year’s team is capable too
This post was edited on 6/3/18 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 6/3/18 at 1:13 pm to LL012697
2000 is when the spending really started, prior to that their moves were smart. Grabbing Paul O'Neil from the Reds, David Cone from the Jays, signing David Wells, they didn't make too many splashes. However, 2000 things changed and they went after players who were close to 30 hitting their first new contract and subsequently started to decline after 3 years.
Most of the payroll prior to 2000 stemmed from resigning players that came up through the system such as Bernie Williams or players that came on slick trades such as Paul/Cone.
Most of the payroll prior to 2000 stemmed from resigning players that came up through the system such as Bernie Williams or players that came on slick trades such as Paul/Cone.
Posted on 6/3/18 at 1:13 pm to mountaintop
Big market/small market matters less and less over the years. Being the Yankees or Lakers isn't the built in advantage it used to be.
Posted on 6/3/18 at 1:16 pm to mountaintop
The Braves won their division 14 consecutive years and only won one WS. They won 100+ games six times and only one of those teams even made it to the World Series. shite happens. The best team or the most talented team doesn't always win.
Posted on 6/3/18 at 1:25 pm to mountaintop
My heart is breaking for them
Posted on 6/3/18 at 2:01 pm to mountaintop
They have had droughts in their history, including a long one in between about 1980 and 1996 while Steinbrenner owned the team.
Their most recent drought can probably be put down to a few things including-
1. Losing their marquee players like Derek Jeter and ARod to retirement without suitable replacements
2. A lack of talent in the farm system
3. Coaching issues between Joe Torre’s retirement and heir apparent Don Mattingly leaving for the Dodgers
4. The Red Sox coming out of long term hibernation, winning their first World Series since 1918 and their first AL pennant since 1986.
The last one is the big one if only because having the Sox there means that winning the AL East isn’t a given. This is in spite of the Orioles sucking since about 1997 and the Jays and Rays sucking for the better part of that timeframe.
A comeback for them probably involves fixing their farm system, developing some good homegrown talent, then supplementing them with some expensive players that fill roles for them.
They have the money to buy players and be able to shrug off mistakes but they still need to have about 2-3 generational talents who are young enough that they can be cornerstones for about 20 years.
Their most recent drought can probably be put down to a few things including-
1. Losing their marquee players like Derek Jeter and ARod to retirement without suitable replacements
2. A lack of talent in the farm system
3. Coaching issues between Joe Torre’s retirement and heir apparent Don Mattingly leaving for the Dodgers
4. The Red Sox coming out of long term hibernation, winning their first World Series since 1918 and their first AL pennant since 1986.
The last one is the big one if only because having the Sox there means that winning the AL East isn’t a given. This is in spite of the Orioles sucking since about 1997 and the Jays and Rays sucking for the better part of that timeframe.
A comeback for them probably involves fixing their farm system, developing some good homegrown talent, then supplementing them with some expensive players that fill roles for them.
They have the money to buy players and be able to shrug off mistakes but they still need to have about 2-3 generational talents who are young enough that they can be cornerstones for about 20 years.
Posted on 6/3/18 at 2:20 pm to teke184
quote:huh? They acquired Didi as soon as Jeter retired and he has been better than Jeter during his final years. At 3B they had a hole but no one was going to put up the numbers ARod in his prime did. Headley was serviceable and Andujar is great.
1. Losing their marquee players like Derek Jeter and ARod to retirement without suitable replacements
quote:true until the last 3-4 years.
2. A lack of talent in the farm system
quote:Mattingly left long before Torre retired and Torre was replaced by a former player in Girardi, I'm not sure Mattingly was better and I love Mattingly
Coaching issues between Joe Torre’s retirement and heir apparent Don Mattingly leaving for the Dodgers
quote:The Sox have had good teams in the past but struggled in the postseason, finally they had better teams for the most part as the Yankees relied on FA over the hill types while the Sox thrived on what helped the Yankees in the 90's, farm system players and slick FA deals/trades.
The Red Sox coming out of long term hibernation, winning their first World Series since 1918 and their first AL pennant since 1986.
quote:
A comeback for them probably involves fixing their farm system, developing some good homegrown talent
new to baseball? quote:They haven't "bought" players in years, look at the current team Severino, Kahnle, Montgomery, Torres, Bird, Sanchez, Andujar, Romine, Austin, McKinney, Frazier, Torreys, etc are all home grown. Hicks, Drury, Didi are great trades trading a young player who had potential, CC/Chapman are their big FA signings.
They have the money to buy players and be able to shrug off mistakes but they still need to have about 2-3 generational talents who are young enough that they can be cornerstones for about 20 years.
Posted on 6/3/18 at 2:30 pm to LL012697
The 2010 Yankees team was pretty meh. Also, 20/27 of your titles came before 1963
Posted on 6/3/18 at 2:37 pm to Mr. Elvert
shite by that logic 8 of the 9 WS wins from the A's don't count
8 of the 11 Cardinals WS doesn't count
frick baseball didn't begin apparently until 1965
8 of the 11 Cardinals WS doesn't count
frick baseball didn't begin apparently until 1965
Posted on 6/3/18 at 2:38 pm to Mr. Elvert
It also means the Yankees have won 7 titles since 1963 and the closest team to them is the Cardinals at 5
Posted on 6/3/18 at 2:38 pm to tduecen
OP is acting like Yankees should win it every year and that 1996 to 2000 is the norm
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