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re: AP: Copy of Ray Rice tape was sent to NFL executive in April -- Bye Roger

Posted on 9/11/14 at 2:31 pm to
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 9/11/14 at 2:31 pm to
Bill Polian piece needs its own thread.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 9/11/14 at 2:35 pm to
it does...it's shameless


this one doesn't but it is the best representation I've ever read on why I fricking hate Roger Goodell and how he ruined football

LINK
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33897 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 2:38 pm to
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Why keep him around when you can get another guy knowing he won't affect the cash flow but he also won't keep bringing back bad PR for your league.


Simpler question is why get rid of him when keeping him doens't affect the bottom line.

They like Goodell. It's a boys club. It's a group of old rich people that are fiercely loyal to each other for the most part.
This post was edited on 9/11/14 at 2:40 pm
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 9/11/14 at 2:41 pm to
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Simpler question is why get rid of him when keeping him doens't affect the bottom line


you know in casino where they decide to kill andy?


"why take a chance?"
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 2:42 pm to
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They like Goodell. It's a boys club. It's a group of old rich people that are fiercely loyal to each other for the most part.


everyone has a limit to their loyalty
Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
10669 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 2:42 pm to
I wonder if Roger is having any conversations with Ray Rice......like.....Ray just be quiet for a little while and I will make sure you end up on the team of your choice.

If I'm Rice or his wife, I am suing the league. I don't know if he could win or if there is even a case to be made. But Rice definitely lost more money short term and possibly even long term. His suspension went from 2 games to indefinite. I would sue the league if I were him.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 9/11/14 at 2:43 pm to
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Bill Polian piece needs its own thread
Just made it
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 2:44 pm to
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If I'm Rice or his wife, I am suing the league


ray knows definitively...you know when you're getting punished, they tell you. I saw the tape and...blah blah blah. He's been told to shut up and he'll be back in a year, say anything and he'll never be reinstated
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33897 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 2:44 pm to
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you know in casino where they decide to kill andy?


"why take a chance?"


Good analogy.

I agree but we haven't reached that point yet.
This post was edited on 9/11/14 at 2:45 pm
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 9/11/14 at 2:52 pm to
Not to belabor the fact, but regarding the advertisements from Coke/McD's/etc., I would imagine just the simple threat of they walking would be enough to pressure the owners for new NFL management. None of those companies want to support (ie. give $$) to a commish who, in many women's eyes, minimized this situation.
Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 9/11/14 at 2:57 pm to
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Simpler question is why get rid of him when keeping him doens't affect the bottom line.
I get your point, and it's a good one.

But at some point, you gotta wonder if you can trust the guy to handle these tough items, and we're way past the point of realizing he can't be trusted to do that.

So they could keep him around for the reasons you said, and very well may if they can find a scapegoat here, but they'll then run the risk of him doing something that is actually harming the bottom line in the future.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33897 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 2:58 pm to
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None of those companies want to support (ie. give $$) to a commish who, in many women's eyes, minimized this situation


They're going to sacrifice the lowest person on the totem pole that they can. They aren't going to start at the top.

It may ultimately end with Goodell but I think that's a last resort for them, not a first option.
This post was edited on 9/11/14 at 2:59 pm
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 9/11/14 at 2:58 pm to
That was bizarre.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 2:58 pm to
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I would imagine just the simple threat of they walking would be enough to pressure the owners for new NFL management. None of those companies want to support (ie. give $$) to a commish who, in many women's eyes, minimized this situation.


bingo, nor do they rely on their sponsorship of the NFL,

have you ever heard of Extreme Networks or Dairy Management, Inc.?

you think Microsoft, anheuser busch, pepsi co, procter and gamble, etc...rely on advertisements run during NFL games and having their name attached to a halftime highlight?

no, it's great exposure, but some of those companies are pretty big...anheuser busch does almost $5 billion in sales, mcdonalds over 5 billion... sure they're not the giant the NFL is, but collectively, they dwarf them, and they all have brand power to swing around while the nfl is floating in the water...and bleeding

Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
10669 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 3:24 pm to
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But at some point, you gotta wonder if you can trust the guy to handle these tough items, and we're way past the point of realizing he can't be trusted to do that.
If he stays on as commissioner what kind of credibility will Goodell have during the next players bargaining agreement? As far as public perception is concerned he has lost all credibility. I thought the NBA commissioner Stern was a slimy POS but Goodell is about to surpass him.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56176 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 4:23 pm to
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I thought the NBA commissioner Stern was a slimy POS but Goodell is about to surpass him.


So anyone in Authority is basically a POS, right?
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56176 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 5:10 pm to
Just listened to Troy Aikman on this issue.

He is pretty critical of the commissioner.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
38502 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 5:22 pm to
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So they could keep him around for the reasons you said, and very well may if they can find a scapegoat here, but they'll then run the risk of him doing something that is actually harming the bottom line in the future.



This is a really good way of putting it.

He's proven himself to be untrustworthy and incompetent now, so why leave him in charge and risk him making a more serious blunder?
This post was edited on 9/11/14 at 5:25 pm
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216143 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 5:32 pm to
I am SO tired of this story. Domestic violence happens everyday in this country by the everyday JOE who goes to work and gets home and him and the wife get into it and he slugs her [or worse]... But THAT doesn't bring up this kind of coverage...... What he did was just as wrong as the next guy. Its the NFL and the MEDIA is hyping this as much as they can just to get ratings.....
Posted by hiltacular
NYC
Member since Jan 2011
20133 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 5:36 pm to
I was tired of the story before it even started. I do find it hilarious that Ravens fans are apparently still wearing Rice jerseys and supporting him

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