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re: Anyone else surprised at how upset they are personally by this Kobe news?
Posted on 1/27/20 at 10:43 am to okietiger
Posted on 1/27/20 at 10:43 am to okietiger
yeah this one hit me harder than I was expecting
probably because I grew up watching and emulating Kobe so much
basketball was my sport and Kobe was my favorite player
also that we were both in similar age and both have all daughters
I don't normally care that much about these deaths but I found myself absorbing all the Kobe stuff yesterday and this morning
probably because I grew up watching and emulating Kobe so much
basketball was my sport and Kobe was my favorite player
also that we were both in similar age and both have all daughters
I don't normally care that much about these deaths but I found myself absorbing all the Kobe stuff yesterday and this morning
This post was edited on 1/27/20 at 10:44 am
Posted on 1/27/20 at 10:45 am to lsupride87
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This post was edited on 4/24/21 at 11:50 am
Posted on 1/27/20 at 10:46 am to lsupride87
The daughter and the others are the ones that should or could really make people upset, but I turn on sports radio for the past 24 hrs and hosts are literally weeping on air... And I juts don't get it.
OK, the guy was a great entertainer, but did you know him personally? Most on these shows didn't..yet they're acting as if their own family member died. It's really and truly bizarre and strange.
Guys die every day in the military and on police forces and no one shows 1/100th of the remorse. Call me cynical, but I belive much of this is for show...hosts trying to outdo each other with "emotion" and "seriousness"
Dan Patrick was extra nauseating this morning. He said his whole show was basically in mourning.
OK, the guy was a great entertainer, but did you know him personally? Most on these shows didn't..yet they're acting as if their own family member died. It's really and truly bizarre and strange.
Guys die every day in the military and on police forces and no one shows 1/100th of the remorse. Call me cynical, but I belive much of this is for show...hosts trying to outdo each other with "emotion" and "seriousness"
Dan Patrick was extra nauseating this morning. He said his whole show was basically in mourning.
This post was edited on 1/27/20 at 10:47 am
Posted on 1/27/20 at 10:46 am to JetsetNuggs
quote:
While I'm not particularly upset to the point of crying, yesterday was just a weird day. He was one of those dudes I could see being in everything outside of basketball.
I mean I was never near crying

But yes, very somber day.
Posted on 1/27/20 at 10:47 am to PrimeTime Money
quote:
I don’t know why. I can’t explain it. But this one was a punch in the gut.
Yep. I’m with you and OP on this one.
Simmons and Chris Ryan mentioned it in their pod - we basically watched this guy’s entire life. I remember being 10 years old and rooting against him, I remember being 27 and watching his last game. That’s a long time.
Being able to feel for someone you never met isn’t strange, it shows a human empathy and compassion and awareness.
Not everybody thinks like that, and those among us who are less emotional don’t really connect with the story. Nothing wrong with it, but I definitely could have predicted who in my life and on this board would take this particular stance.
To each their own. It was a really sad day for me.
Posted on 1/27/20 at 10:48 am to okietiger
quote:
I mean I was never near crying
I got a little choked up when I found out his daughter was with him
But I do that for lots of stories like this because I’m a fricking softie at heart

Posted on 1/27/20 at 10:49 am to okietiger
quote:
So many of us can relate to the hustle and bustle of getting kids from home to practice/game
It’s obviously sad but my biggest takeaway is some people are so rich they can take a helicopter to basketball practice
Posted on 1/27/20 at 10:50 am to NawlinsTiger9
quote:Well me too actually
But I do that for lots of stories like this because I’m a fricking softie at heart
I was sad at the news honestly. But no more or less sad than when that Ochsner nurse was killed recently. Or the story of the lsu mom dying in child birth
I get being sad, I guess i dont "get" being more upset over this death than any other random death of someone you didnt truly know.
Posted on 1/27/20 at 10:52 am to okietiger
He is my favorite athlete of all time, so I am biased but I think a lot has to do with how he changed the narrative of his career and the idea of the person he is (was
)
Somewhere along the way, Kobe went from being viewed as this cyborg loner who had no interests in anyone or anything other than basketball and being the GOAT. Initially he was blamed for the falling out with Shaq and was maybe the most hated superstar athlete in the country from 2003-2006ish.
The back half of his career he became a great teammate that guys like Gasol, Odom, Fisher, Artest etc would literally do anything for. People from all aspects of life began to admire the inhuman work ethic he had. Once he was washed up and finally let his wall down, people got to see just what an incredible father he was and how much his children meant to him.
The incredible amount of respect that his peers had for him, along with the younger generation of basketball players, was telling. They viewed him like guys in the 80s-90s viewed Jordan. Elite athletes from other sports adopted the mamba mentality and used him as a measuring stick.
Kobe used that same work ethic that he poured into basketball dating back to the mid-80’s when he was this leper growing up in Italy and redirected it to his family and entrepreneurship once basketball was gone. There’s no doubt he would’ve continued doing amazing things if the world wasn’t robbed of him. :(
Tldr but I’m still shook up about this

Somewhere along the way, Kobe went from being viewed as this cyborg loner who had no interests in anyone or anything other than basketball and being the GOAT. Initially he was blamed for the falling out with Shaq and was maybe the most hated superstar athlete in the country from 2003-2006ish.
The back half of his career he became a great teammate that guys like Gasol, Odom, Fisher, Artest etc would literally do anything for. People from all aspects of life began to admire the inhuman work ethic he had. Once he was washed up and finally let his wall down, people got to see just what an incredible father he was and how much his children meant to him.
The incredible amount of respect that his peers had for him, along with the younger generation of basketball players, was telling. They viewed him like guys in the 80s-90s viewed Jordan. Elite athletes from other sports adopted the mamba mentality and used him as a measuring stick.
Kobe used that same work ethic that he poured into basketball dating back to the mid-80’s when he was this leper growing up in Italy and redirected it to his family and entrepreneurship once basketball was gone. There’s no doubt he would’ve continued doing amazing things if the world wasn’t robbed of him. :(
Tldr but I’m still shook up about this
Posted on 1/27/20 at 10:54 am to lsupride87
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I get being sad, I guess i dont "get" being more upset over this death than any other random death of someone you didnt truly know.
pretty simple
people have actual memories of watching Kobe or trying to emulate Kobe or whatever
I realize "upset" can mean all kinds of things, but it shouldn't be hard to understand why some people would be more upset about a person they followed for maybe 2 decades than some random person they never heard of before
Posted on 1/27/20 at 10:56 am to lsupride87
quote:I'll never get why people go to this cliche line and assume there's not levels of being upset when someone dies.
I am not going to pretend to be hurting like a family member or friend
There's just no logic whatsoever in that statement. Just because someone says Kobe dying had some tough impact on them does not mean they are hurting like if they had lost a family member or friend.
quote:If they use the logic you just did, they probably are pissed, but that's their problem to deal with, not the person who is bummed that Kobe died.
Truthfully, I think it likely kinda pissed some actual family and friends off when people react like this for celebrities
Posted on 1/27/20 at 10:56 am to okietiger
Yeah, I never was much of a fan of his but it hit me hard when I heard. Just assumed that even after retirement he would always be around basketball and would continue to have a big public presence.
The most surreal thing is seeing older legends like Kareem and Bill Russell eulogizing him. These are legends Kobe probably grew up idolizing and he is gone before them
The most surreal thing is seeing older legends like Kareem and Bill Russell eulogizing him. These are legends Kobe probably grew up idolizing and he is gone before them
Posted on 1/27/20 at 10:58 am to Salmon
quote:I dont understand it personally. I understand being more interested in kobes death than a random person, I truly dont understand being more upset about it. To be clear though, I=it doesnt make me mad and I am not actually blaming people that feel more upset. Human emotions are very strange and very individualistic. I am sure there are thigns that get to me that others wouldnt understand
pretty simple
people have actual memories of watching Kobe or trying to emulate Kobe or whatever
I realize "upset" can mean all kinds of things, but it shouldn't be hard to understand why some people would be more upset about a person they followed for maybe 2 decades than some random person they never heard of before
The only people that annoy me are the ones that have to make public every little feeling or remorse they have on their social media. That is something I find tacky
This post was edited on 1/27/20 at 10:59 am
Posted on 1/27/20 at 10:58 am to Buckeye06
quote:His death is easily equal to that "to the sports world"
Someone said he was the equivalent to Princess Diana to the sports world and I spit my water out.
Weird that you'd spit your water out over a very spot on take.
Posted on 1/27/20 at 10:59 am to PrimeTime Money
quote:Same, and i'm a notorious Kobe hater on this board lol.
I don’t usually care much about celebrity deaths, but I’m surprised at how much this one hit me.
I don’t know why. I can’t explain it. But this one was a punch in the gut.
Posted on 1/27/20 at 11:00 am to shel311
quote:No it isnt, at least not how I took his post
His death is easily equal to that "to the sports world"
I took his post as not talking about a persons popularity, but talking about each individuals humanitarian efforts
While Kobe seemed like a good guy, I think he pales compared to the humanitarian outreach of Diana
This post was edited on 1/27/20 at 11:01 am
Posted on 1/27/20 at 11:01 am to lsupride87
quote:
I dont understand it personally. I understand being more interested in kobes death than a random person, I truly dont understand being more upset about it.
You played tennis, right?
Did you not have a certain tennis player growing up that you looked towards? Tried to emulate?
If so, and that person died suddenly and tragically, you don't think you would possibly more upset than a normal news death?
because if not, I kinda feel sorry for you

Posted on 1/27/20 at 11:01 am to okietiger
I was surprised. Now i wasn't the type crying and falling all over myself but a genuine type hurt I guess. My conclusion as to why is that Kobe, Griffey and Randy Moss were the sports heroes I grew up with and watched the entirety of their careers. Sports have always been the outlet that frees my mind in a sense and those 3 have been a major part of that over the years. Losing one of those heroes just hit home because it makes me remember back to years where I was still finding myself as a young man. Like a trip back in time and some of those times not good at all.
Posted on 1/27/20 at 11:02 am to lsupride87
quote:I don't know that "more upset" is the correct way to categorize it.
I get being sad, I guess i dont "get" being more upset over this death than any other random death of someone you didnt truly know.
But pick your favorite spors athlete ever, whoever that is for you.
Are you stating if that person died while still young, you'd think about it and deal with it exactly the same as if you read som article about a Mom who died in a car accident in Boise, Idaho?
Posted on 1/27/20 at 11:02 am to Salmon
quote:Yes
You played tennis, right?
quote:of course
Did you not have a certain tennis player growing up that you looked towards? Tried to emulate?
quote:No
If so, and that person died suddenly and tragically, you don't think you would possibly more upset than a normal news death?
But to be clear I get touched about random deaths when I actually take the time to read about a random death
This post was edited on 1/27/20 at 11:03 am
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