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re: Anybody else hoping for a Lakers roster dump

Posted on 4/9/13 at 4:20 pm to
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 4/9/13 at 4:20 pm to
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Do they currently have a first round draft pick for 2013?



Nope. Traded it, along with their 2015 1st rounder for Nash
Posted by ATLTiger
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Posted on 4/9/13 at 4:40 pm to
don't they still have a 2013 pick if it's in the lottery, and Phx gets some late 1st rounder that the Lakers got from someone else?
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 4/9/13 at 4:43 pm to
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don't they still have a 2013 pick if it's in the lottery, and Phx gets some late 1st rounder that the Lakers got from someone else?



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July 11, 2012: The Lakers traded a 2013 first-round pick, a 2015 first-round pick, two second-round picks (in 2013 and 2014) and cash to Phoenix for Steve Nash.


In a trade that was widely viewed as a coup for the Lakers, the team acquired one of the premier point guards of the millennium (albeit the 38-year-old-version) for what was thought to be a collection of odds-and-ends. Again, we want to focus on the 2013 pick here.


The Lakers essentially agreed to give the Suns whatever pick they end up with in 2013. If the team misses the playoffs and ends up in the lottery (with one of the top 14 picks), the pick goes directly to Phoenix. If the Lakers somehow make the playoffs, then the Cavs still get the first shot at it, and the Lakers will end up with the worst pick from among the four aforementioned teams. But then whichever pick the Lakers end up with would go to Phoenix.


In summary, any way you slice it, the Suns get a first-round pick from the Lakers this summer. If we project the current records to the end of the season, the Lakers would be in the lottery and likely end up with the 10th pick, and the pick would be conveyed to Phoenix. (Historians will note that the Lakers’ only visits to the lottery were in 1994 and 2005, and both times they had the 10th pick, selecting Eddie Jones and Andrew Bynum, respectively.)


So if the Lakers want to have a first-round pick in this June’s draft, they’re going to have to trade for one. Their own pick will go to either Phoenix or Cleveland (likely Phoenix), and the team will be on the outside looking in on June 27. Unless Kupchak trades for another pick, his options are limited.
Posted by jturn17
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 4/9/13 at 4:46 pm to
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don't they still have a 2013 pick if it's in the lottery, and Phx gets some late 1st rounder that the Lakers got from someone else?

No one thought there was any reason to make the pick lottery protected. Everyone was too busy penciling them in for another championship.
Posted by TigerMan327
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Posted on 4/9/13 at 4:58 pm to
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Also, saw a stat yesterday that the Lakers have only missed the playoffs 5 times in their existence. That is insane.


So your saying Kobe is responsible for 20% of the seasons the Lakers missed the playoffs?? definitely not GOAT material
Posted by Matisyeezy
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Posted on 4/9/13 at 5:10 pm to
I was thinking essentially what Speedy said, but 3 top 10 picks with Bynum, Jones, and Worthy as a result is pretty damn strong. I didn't realize they'd had that kinda success.
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 4/9/13 at 5:19 pm to
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the not so fast Chris Paul deal will haunt them for a few years. He could've been their centerpiece after Kobe.
But but but, Stern has it rigged in favor of the Lakers!!!
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 4/9/13 at 5:43 pm to
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Due to Howard's $19.26 million salary for 2012-13 and the increases he'd see should he sign an extension next summer (which seems likely), the Lakers are facing a very large luxury tax payment in future seasons. Cap guru Larry Coon emailed Henry Abbott of TrueHoop with an explanation:

The Lakers will have a tax bill of around $30 million next July, and in retrospect, will view this season as their salad days -- it's the last one where the tax rate is dollar-for-dollar. Starting in 2013-14 the new "incremental" tax takes over, where being $30 million above the tax line will mean paying a whopping $85 million tax bill.
And it gets worse. Starting in 2014-15 teams will pay an even higher rate for being repeat offenders -- defined as paying tax in at least three of the four previous seasons. A team $30 million over the tax line will pay -- brace yourself -- an additional $115 million in luxury tax.

After adding up their payroll, luxury tax bill and revenue sharing contribution (projected to be $49.4 million in 2013-14), even the Lakers have to stop to consider whether this simply can be written off as the cost of doing business -- and that's the future if they're paying players with salaries like Bryant, Howard, Gasol and Nash.


Holy shite. Jim Buss

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Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 4/9/13 at 6:23 pm to
Couldn't Dwight take a pay cut?

Won't happen, but couldn't he?




And they'd be best to trade Gasol.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 4/9/13 at 6:30 pm to
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Or they get Kyrie Irving.


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Posted by goldenbadger08
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Posted on 4/9/13 at 6:33 pm to
Brandon Jennings wants to be in LA
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 4/9/13 at 7:17 pm to
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Couldn't Dwight take a pay cut?



He could, but he has no reason to. He'll sign a max contract this offseason. If LA doesn't sign him to a max contract, he can leave and they just blew those draft picks and Kobe's second to last season. Jim Buss really has put the Lakers in a bind.
This post was edited on 4/9/13 at 7:18 pm
Posted by ATLTiger
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 8:38 am to
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No one thought there was any reason to make the pick lottery protected.


I'm sure Kupchak at least started his negotiations from a point of lottery protection, but he did also give Luke Walton that extension, so who knows.
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