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re: And New IBF WELTERWEIGHT CHAMP "Errol the Truth Spence Jr!"

Posted on 5/27/17 at 6:24 pm to
Posted by GeauxHouston
Houston,TX
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 5/27/17 at 6:24 pm to
Thurman vs Spence Jr.
Now that's a badass mf fight.
Posted by GeauxHouston
Houston,TX
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Posted on 5/27/17 at 6:25 pm to
Nah PAC can still beat the top guys at this age
Posted by Jamohn
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Posted on 5/27/17 at 6:52 pm to
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I see this as a testament to the greatness of Mayweather (Nobody would pick either fighter tonight to beat Floyd tomorrow). There's a false narrative that he waited for Manny to get old/slow to make the fight (even though Floyd is two years older). Also, people seem to forget that Pac hasn't knocked anyone out since agreeing to Floyd's initial demand of random blood/urine testing. Don't you think it's strange that he went from walking through punches from bigger fighters like Mosely, Hatton, Margarito, Clottey, and Cotto, to getting KO'd by the much smaller Marques?

Mayweather could've fought Kell Brook. He never would because Brook was dangerous. Instead he went out against Berto. Pac was younger but offensive fighters age quicker. Pac hasn't knocked anyone out since Cotto and Marques failed a PED test after KOing Manny. Pac in his prime would've most likely been countered into oblivion by Mayweather but that wasn't the point--he was a risk and Mayweather didn't take risks.

Mayweather would never touch any of these guys even though he would've been favored against any of them and probably would have beaten them. A hypothetical 35 y/o Mayweather might look at Brook at this stage with 2 injured eyes as vulnerable enough to take on. Mayweather, as beautiful a fighter as he was, left a stench over the sport of gleefully ripping off fans while bragging in their faces about it. And if this Conor fight happens, he'll do it again.

Anyway, I really don't want to relitigate this tiresome subject. Sorry for mentioning Floyd's name.

ERROL F'N SPENCE JR!
Posted by Jamohn
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Posted on 5/27/17 at 6:53 pm to
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Nah PAC can still beat the top guys at this age

No. Keep him away from Crawford. That would be sad to watch and I'd rather not see a great champion like Pac humiliated.
Posted by GeauxHouston
Houston,TX
Member since Nov 2013
4454 posts
Posted on 5/27/17 at 7:02 pm to
Honestly what about Spence vs Cotto? Wouldn't do anything for Cotto but would make Spence a star if he could win decisively.
Posted by GeauxHouston
Houston,TX
Member since Nov 2013
4454 posts
Posted on 5/27/17 at 7:03 pm to
Well yeah Crawford has that style that would trouble PAC.
Top 5 Welterweights
1. Spence
2/3 PacMan
2/3 Thurman
4. Brook
5. Porter

Bradley would be in there but he hasn't fought in over a year now.
This post was edited on 5/27/17 at 7:05 pm
Posted by Mooreman
Kildare , Ireland
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 5/27/17 at 7:05 pm to
Spence surpassed Pac....
Posted by GeauxHouston
Houston,TX
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 5/27/17 at 7:06 pm to
I agree without a doubt. I just think PAC has easy work with any welterweight except Spence and Thurman.
Posted by Jamohn
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Posted on 5/27/17 at 7:19 pm to
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I just think PAC has easy work with any welterweight except Spence and Thurman.
We're gonna have to agree to disagree here. I think any of those guys would work Pac at this stage. No disrespect to Pac, but father time is undefeated with one draw against Bernard Hopkins.
Posted by Shotime
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2009
522 posts
Posted on 5/27/17 at 8:18 pm to
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Marques failed a PED test after KOing Manny


No, he didn't, please provide a link if I'm wrong.

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Mayweather could've fought Kell Brook. He never would because Brook was dangerous.


There was no financial incentive to fight Kell Brook. His only significant win was against Shawn Porter. A fight in which he looked like a welterweight version of Wladimir Klitschko (1-2- hold, 1-2 hold). I agree that May vs Berto was a shite fight (should've been DSG) but Berto's resume > Brook's resume.

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ERROL F'N SPENCE JR!

The Future
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
28730 posts
Posted on 5/27/17 at 8:28 pm to
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Also, people seem to forget that Pac hasn't knocked anyone out since agreeing to Floyd's initial demand of random blood/urine testing. Don't you think it's strange that he went from walking through punches from bigger fighters like Mosely, Hatton, Margarito, Clottey, and Cotto, to getting KO'd by the much smaller Marques?



Pac has destroyed everybody he has fought since Mayweather. He was whipping Marquez and he got the 1 lucky punch in.
Posted by Shotime
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2009
522 posts
Posted on 5/27/17 at 8:36 pm to
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Pac has destroyed everybody he has fought since Mayweather.


He's only fought two times since the Floyd the fight, and he didn't destroy either opponent. I'm willing to bet he won't destroy Jeff Horn in his next fight.
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
28730 posts
Posted on 5/27/17 at 8:46 pm to
Pac has easily beat everyone since the Marquez defeat besides Mayweather including destroying Bradley again. And yes, he will easily beat Horn.
Posted by Jamohn
Das Boot
Member since Mar 2009
13544 posts
Posted on 5/27/17 at 9:02 pm to
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No, he didn't, please provide a link if I'm wrong.
Sorry, you're right. He never failed. I apologize. It's talked about with such certainty that he was juiced that I got mixed up.

I'll leave the Brooks - Berto debate for another thread and I don't want to discuss Floyd. I'm enjoying life after Floyd too much
Posted by Marciano1
Marksville, LA
Member since Jun 2009
18459 posts
Posted on 5/27/17 at 9:55 pm to
Spence has been calling out Thurman for two years and all he does is make excuses. Now he has to man up.

Spence will clown Thurman, IMO.
Posted by smash williams
San Diego
Member since Apr 2009
19754 posts
Posted on 5/27/17 at 10:16 pm to
Wasn't able to watch the fight earlier but just finished watching. So pumped man. I knew it was going to be a great fight.

This is just the beginning. I've been following this guy since the Olympics.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51811 posts
Posted on 5/27/17 at 10:44 pm to
Hell of a fight.

You could see Brook losing confidence after the 7th round.

Spence is fun to watch. Brook had nothing to be ashamed of.
Posted by smash williams
San Diego
Member since Apr 2009
19754 posts
Posted on 5/27/17 at 11:32 pm to
In his post fight interview he said that was part of the game plan after watching film on Brook. He wanted to pick up the pace to make him uncomfortable.

It was essentially a typical Errol Spence fight, his jab looked great, he worked the body, and he threw/landed combos.
Posted by Marciano1
Marksville, LA
Member since Jun 2009
18459 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 8:11 am to
I bet Amir Khan suddenly wants the Kell Brook fight....
Posted by Tarik One
Member since May 2016
2094 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 8:15 am to
Good fight, Brook had the Porter gameplan with all the holding he was doing, but I still had him winning most of the early rds. Spence put the money in the bank with those body shots, and he just fought more determined. He eventually walked Brook down like most of us thought he would and those GGG shots with the eye resurfaced and the rest is history.

Stylistically, I believe Brook was a tougher matchup than Thurman. Errol needs to work on fighting off his back foot. Kell was able to exploit that and land good clean shots in the earlier rounds. I doubt Thurman will be able to do the same. He doesn't back anyone up. Spence will make an effort to make Thurman uncomfortable early with body shots and cutting off the ring.
This post was edited on 5/28/17 at 4:51 pm
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