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Alex English on Keyshawn, JWill, and Max, regarding Joker:

Posted on 6/2/23 at 8:40 am
Posted by themetalreb
Mississippi
Member since Sep 2018
5903 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 8:40 am
“People don’t want to accept the fact that a big slow white guy is the best player in the NBA”….now I’m not saying he’s right, but it was an interesting comment. I also believe part of it is his (English) loyalty to the Nuggets…what say ye?
Posted by Frac the world
The Centennial State
Member since Oct 2014
19304 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 8:44 am to


These stupid fricking “analysts” who never played in the NBA just don’t get it. If you’ve paid attention, all the players get it and none of them are haters.

Lebrons comments about him after he got swept says it all about Jokic. I think it was the best praise I’ve ever heard LeSwept give another player.

Active players and former players understand how special he is.
Posted by TheWalrus
Land of the Hogs
Member since Dec 2012
44382 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 8:45 am to
And I truly believe Mark Jackson “accidentally” left Jokic off his MVP ballot…
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
34647 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 8:45 am to
quote:

“People don’t want to accept the fact that a big slow white guy is the best player in the NBA”


Bigger issue is that he's a quiet guy from a small Eastern European country. He's not really very marketable. If he was a white American named Nicholas Johnson, the hype would be off the charts.
This post was edited on 6/2/23 at 8:54 am
Posted by bigpetedatiga
Alexandria, LA
Member since Aug 2009
8705 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 8:46 am to
I'll just throw in my 2 cents.

I think this is more of a media narrative. Not to play the black card, but from the barbershop to the kids I coach, The Joker is much loved and respected.

ETA: if yall thought kids mimicking Steph was bad, wait to you see all the tall heavy kids deciding they are going to run the offense.
This post was edited on 6/2/23 at 8:49 am
Posted by StrongOffer
Member since Sep 2020
5641 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 8:47 am to
It's the same reason people my age laugh at the idea that Bird could be on Mount Rushmore over LeBron. They've never seen him play. All they see is a slow white guy compared to LeBron living above the rim their entire childhood. Athleticism isn't the only trait that makes a great player. Btw I'm not sure if I even would have Bird over LeBron, it's close.
Posted by TigerMan327
Elsewhere
Member since Feb 2011
5800 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 8:50 am to
Honestly the league is trending in a bad way from a Superstar perspective IMO.

Right now the top 4 players in the league are all foreign born and talk with accents\broken english (Jokic, Embiid, Giannas, and Luka)

They are all relatively young and are going to be the face of the league once Lebron\KD\Steph retire which will occur in the next few years.

Americans typically enjoy watching other Americans dominate their sports. It's just a fact. I wonder how this will change the popularity in the coming years.
Posted by bigpetedatiga
Alexandria, LA
Member since Aug 2009
8705 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 8:58 am to
quote:

Americans typically enjoy watching other Americans dominate their sports. It's just a fact. I wonder how this will change the popularity in the coming years.


I don't know about that.

All those players are very popular and you can see it in their jersey sales. I don't think it matters all that much as long as a good product is put out.
Posted by bigpetedatiga
Alexandria, LA
Member since Aug 2009
8705 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 8:58 am to
quote:

Americans typically enjoy watching other Americans dominate their sports. It's just a fact. I wonder how this will change the popularity in the coming years.


I don't know about that.

All those players are very popular and you can see it in their jersey sales. I don't think it matters all that much as long as a good product is put out.
Posted by MetArl15
Washington, DC
Member since Apr 2007
11470 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 9:05 am to
Dominicans have been dominating MLB for years now and not sure it has impacted the league’s popularity.
Posted by BHTiger
Charleston
Member since Dec 2017
7067 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 9:08 am to
The dudes on the pregame show were pained to say he was it.
Posted by zsav77
Member since Oct 2011
6151 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 9:11 am to
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former players understand how special he is.


Kendrick Perkins didn't get the memo.
Posted by MrJimBeam
Member since Apr 2009
12896 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 9:19 am to
Just look at Mark Jackson's MVP ballot as exhibit A.
Posted by Socrates Johnson
Madisonville
Member since Apr 2012
2312 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 9:25 am to
quote:

He's not really very marketable


He's a slightly handsomer Greg Ostertag.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
51656 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 9:42 am to
quote:

ight now the top 4 players in the league are all foreign born and talk with accents\broken english (Jokic, Embiid, Giannas, and Luka)


Giannis after his championship got damn likable. I wonder if Jokic will do better in interviews and get a personality if they win it
Posted by BowDownToLSU
Livingston louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
20342 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 9:59 am to
Former NBA player Eddie Johnson is one of the worst. He cohost the “ The NBA Today” he always says Joker is overrated. I went back and with him on Twitter. I was trying to get him to admit that he doesn’t like him because he’s white
Posted by biggdogg
United States
Member since May 2008
1779 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 9:59 am to
Kinda bs, because dirk ran the league for a few years and everyone knew it
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
30195 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 10:05 am to
I think a lot of it is the style of play. You watch the Nuggets for a half and you think:

- this guy can't really jump
- he doesn't really move quickly
- he doesn't put up bulk shot attempts
- my goodness, this is so boring

And then you look up the halftime stats and he's got a triple double with 17 points, 14 rebounds and 11 assists already and his team is winning by 18. It just kind of is what it is.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281850 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 10:09 am to
"Diversity" in the NBA seems to bring out the best in some people.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
46891 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 10:16 am to
quote:

Americans typically enjoy watching other Americans dominate their sports. It's just a fact. I wonder how this will change the popularity in the coming years.


Shohei Ohtani (Japan) and Ronald Acuna Jr (Venezuela) might be the two most popular players in baseball right now.
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