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Posted on 1/13/13 at 6:47 pm to
Posted by josh336
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Posted on 1/13/13 at 6:47 pm to
Right call going for 2. It should have cost the Falcons there game earlier when they elected to kick the extra point.
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5264 posts
Posted on 1/13/13 at 6:47 pm to
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Not really. Has they not made it, the situation is entirely different. Waiting to go for two keeps you in the game longer. They made it, moot point.

Both announcers questioned the call. But the coach is the coach b


no, that is completely wrong. The announcers don't have a clue. It is all about knowing 6 minutes out whether you have to score 2 TDs or a TD and a FG
Posted by Obi-Wan Tiger
Fulshear TX
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/13/13 at 6:49 pm to
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It is all about knowing 6 minutes out whether you have to score 2 TDs or a TD and a FG



Easier to score a TD and FG in 6 min than two TDs.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 1/13/13 at 6:50 pm to
FG time to cover the spread
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
97107 posts
Posted on 1/13/13 at 6:50 pm to
Good insight.
Posted by graychef
Member since Jun 2008
30527 posts
Posted on 1/13/13 at 6:52 pm to
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no, that is completely wrong. The announcers don't have a clue. It is all about knowing 6 minutes out whether you have to score 2 TDs or a TD and a FG


But why force yourself into a TD/TD situation when you can allow yourself a TD/FG situation?
Posted by Obi-Wan Tiger
Fulshear TX
Member since Jan 2004
8564 posts
Posted on 1/13/13 at 6:52 pm to
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Good insight.


Just saying, you have limited time...if you kick the PAT, you have a a much better chance of getting a TD and FG in that time...especially given you likely don't have any TOs by that point in the game.
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5264 posts
Posted on 1/13/13 at 6:53 pm to
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Easier to score a TD and FG in 6 min than two TDs.


Its not about whats easier. Its about what is afforded to you. It is USELESS to score a TD and a FG with 6 minutes if you don't make your 2 point conversion. You will only know if you need it if you go for 2 before rather than after.
Posted by RemouladeSawce
Uranus
Member since Sep 2008
17980 posts
Posted on 1/13/13 at 6:54 pm to
Simms is drunk.
Posted by TDawg1313
WA
Member since Jul 2009
12468 posts
Posted on 1/13/13 at 6:55 pm to
That announcer wants them to kick a FG...
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5264 posts
Posted on 1/13/13 at 6:55 pm to
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But why force yourself into a TD/TD situation when you can allow yourself a TD/FG situation?


dude, you need the 2 point conversion anyway. I've explained it to you. You are caught up on something that is totally irrelevant.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
97107 posts
Posted on 1/13/13 at 6:55 pm to
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But why force yourself into a TD/TD situation when you can allow yourself a TD/FG situation?



what are you even talking about. they would have had to go for the 2 point conversion no matter what. they just chose to do it on the first td and instead of the 2nd td. that way if they didnt get it they at least knew what they needed in the remaining six minutes.

it was the right call, i dont really know what else to say.
Posted by TenTex
Member since Jan 2008
15949 posts
Posted on 1/13/13 at 6:56 pm to
Who is Brady's back up in cause he gets injured next week against the Ravens?
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5264 posts
Posted on 1/13/13 at 6:57 pm to
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Just saying, you have limited time...if you kick the PAT, you have a a much better chance of getting a TD and FG in that time...especially given you likely don't have any TOs by that point in the game.


Everybody knows its easier to score a TD and a FG. That is not the point. It is whether a FG will help or not. You only know if the FG will help once you see whether or not they convert the 2 pt try or not. Thats why you do it on the first score.
Posted by graychef
Member since Jun 2008
30527 posts
Posted on 1/13/13 at 6:58 pm to
DUDE

I know the situation. My point is if you try and fail the two point early, you are forced into a two TD scenario, an unlikely one. If you remain behind by 11, you're still in a TD/FG scenario with the TD requiring a 2-pt conversion. I don't see what's so hard to comprehend.
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5264 posts
Posted on 1/13/13 at 6:59 pm to
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what are you even talking about. they would have had to go for the 2 point conversion no matter what. they just chose to do it on the first td and instead of the 2nd td. that way if they didnt get it they at least knew what they needed in the remaining six minutes.

it was the right call, i dont really know what else to say.


Thankfully somebody else understands. I was losing complete faith in this board.
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5264 posts
Posted on 1/13/13 at 7:00 pm to
alright, I understand what you are saying. you are wrong. You've created a false dilemna between 2 TDs and a TD and a FG.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
97107 posts
Posted on 1/13/13 at 7:00 pm to
quote:

I know the situation. My point is if you try and fail the two point early, you are forced into a two TD scenario, an unlikely one. If you remain behind by 11, you're still in a TD/FG scenario with the TD requiring a 2-pt conversion. I don't see what's so hard to comprehend.



yeah you're kinda dumb. you have to go for 2 on one of the td's. so the coach wanted to know with 6 minutes left if he needed two tds or td/fg rather than with 2 minutes left.
Posted by graychef
Member since Jun 2008
30527 posts
Posted on 1/13/13 at 7:01 pm to
I don't think I have. I'd just rather keep all scoring options on the table in trying to tie the game. Wait until the last possible moment to attempt the two point conversion.

Agree to disagree.
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5264 posts
Posted on 1/13/13 at 7:03 pm to
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I don't think I have. I'd just rather keep all scoring options on the table in trying to tie the game. Wait until the last possible moment to attempt the two point conversion.


Duly noted that you would rather do that. It is still completely irrational.
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