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re: Adrian Peterson comes out against gay marriage
Posted on 5/27/13 at 1:01 pm to inadaze
Posted on 5/27/13 at 1:01 pm to inadaze
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so we have a binary argument, with each side having its own subjective value.
y'all are having the debate. i'm just stating that it's discriminatory on both sides, and using "bad" words like "bias" or "discriminatory" do nothing to actually have a debate.
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Anti-gay marriage people are discriminating against the act of marriage
they're typically discriminating on who gets to participate in a religious exercise by examining the religion who would offer a vessel for such an exercise
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Posted on 5/27/13 at 1:02 pm to TulaneTigerFan
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TulaneTigerFan
Current marriage definition: 1 man, 1 woman
Proposed marriage definition: 2 people who 'love' each other
Why is the proposed marriage definition any more valid than any other definition that people believe in? Once the definition changes it must change to allow all viewpoints if one is to be consistent.
Polygamy, marriage between siblings, etc. cannot be denied once the definition changes.
This post was edited on 5/27/13 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 5/27/13 at 1:03 pm to SlowFlowPro
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the one where you were against being for a top team while supporting a top team (given all the options), while proclaiming the validity of your choice in doing what you were against? that one?
I am only against being for THE top team (or maybe top 2 if we're talking La Liga), not A top team. If you really think Manchester United is the same as Newcastle United then you're more delusional than i though. More likely you're just being intellectually dishonest as per usual.
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it's a good example of a mindset that i abhor, namely the belief that people cannot make their own choices (and if you remember, that thread was contrasting that belief with the belief that the very same people's votes, which are a choice, are somehow viewed as near-holy, rational decisions)
Again you misstate my actual premise. I do believe people can make their own choices, I would simply like to give them good choices to make.
Do i really need to to post the differences in food composition in this country compared to abroad? Do you not wonder why heart disease in the United States is so rampant? Isn't it possible that the food choices we're being given has some influence on that?
Your deference to business to just do whatever they want, damn the consequences on the people, is sickening
This post was edited on 5/27/13 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 5/27/13 at 1:06 pm to SlowFlowPro
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y'all are having the debate. i'm just stating that it's discriminatory on both sides, and using "bad" words like "bias" or "discriminatory" do nothing to actually have a debate.
I was just trying to make the point that in this particular instance, it is objectively more discriminatory to be anti-gay marriage by any objective criteria I can think of.
I have no problem at all with what Peterson said, and I have no problem with gays getting married.
Posted on 5/27/13 at 1:08 pm to inadaze
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I have no problem with gays getting married
Do you have any problems with polygamy?
Posted on 5/27/13 at 1:09 pm to weagle99
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polygamy
THIS is the discussion I want to have.
Posted on 5/27/13 at 1:12 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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If you really think Manchester United is the same as Newcastle United then you're more delusional than i though.
when compared to Wycombe, they are
you believe that picking a non-winner shows a stronger fandom (i'm assuming due to suffering and it being a "tough" choice), but you avoid picking a true non-winner. you went for a "safe" option that is a winner in the grand scheme of things
but i don't really give a shite anyway, b/c none of us live in England, Spain, Germany, etc and we're all fricking bandwagon fans. we're not authentic and we never will be, regardless of adopting cute language or posting on team-centric message boards. the entire argument is ridiculous to me, which is why i follow players and not teams
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I do believe people can make their own choices, I would simply like to give them good choices to make.
Posted on 5/27/13 at 1:12 pm to inadaze
I respect you for being consistent. 
Is there any type of union between 2 or more people that you would oppose being considered marriage?
Is there any type of union between 2 or more people that you would oppose being considered marriage?
Posted on 5/27/13 at 1:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
Authentic Argentina and Boca fan right here baby!!!!! 
Posted on 5/27/13 at 1:14 pm to weagle99
Nothing he said was wrong. He stated his opinion just because it isn't the same as a lot of yall's doesn't make it wrong. He was respectful with what he said. Everyone wants to make a big deal out of nothing.
Posted on 5/27/13 at 1:15 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Do i really need to to post the differences in food composition in this country compared to abroad? Do you not wonder why heart disease in the United States is so rampant? Isn't it possible that the food choices we're being given has some influence on that?
the thing you ignore is that i don't care. if people want to eat foods that kill them, then let them
i don't believe i'm some god who can tell everybody what they can or can't do (assuming it does not affect another's person or property). i also believe people understand the risks of their choices and still make those choices
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Your deference to business to just do whatever they want, damn the consequences on the people, is sickening
that is not my belief. i believe that people should be free to make their own choices (as long as it doesn't affect another's person or property) and should suffer the consequences of those choices. the same applies to a company. if a company delivers a harmful product to consumers, they should be able to recover for damages
Posted on 5/27/13 at 1:15 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Adrian Peterson comes out against gay marriage
Good for him. In America, we are allowed to have opinions.
Posted on 5/27/13 at 1:16 pm to SlowFlowPro
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you believe that picking a non-winner shows a stronger fandom
again, not really. I just don't like people who pick a team solely because they are "that team"
Posted on 5/27/13 at 1:16 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Draconian Sanctions
You and the city of Austin deserve each other.
Posted on 5/27/13 at 1:17 pm to weagle99
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Is there any type of union between 2 or more people that you would oppose being considered marriage?
I'm sure there are a lot of scenarios we could come up with that I would oppose.
Posted on 5/27/13 at 1:20 pm to Draconian Sanctions
good for him
He respectfully stated his opinion on a matter. I don't particularly agree with him... but in no way, shape or form is what he said "bigoted" or "hateful" like I'm sure a lot of the so called open minded people will label him as.
Now run along and go pick a favorite team in international cricket so you can run on here and broadcast your fake disdain for your longtime bitter rivals.
He respectfully stated his opinion on a matter. I don't particularly agree with him... but in no way, shape or form is what he said "bigoted" or "hateful" like I'm sure a lot of the so called open minded people will label him as.
Now run along and go pick a favorite team in international cricket so you can run on here and broadcast your fake disdain for your longtime bitter rivals.
This post was edited on 5/27/13 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 5/27/13 at 1:21 pm to inadaze
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I'm sure there are a lot of scenarios we could come up with that I would oppose.
Fair answer. I would argue that a person who supports gay marriage can't oppose any other type of marriage scenario and maintain logical consistency.
Posted on 5/27/13 at 1:21 pm to Wild Thang
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You and the city of Austin deserve each other.
Austin is awesome so i will take that as a compliment
Posted on 5/27/13 at 1:21 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Draconian Sanctions
Says we should be more tolerant. Won't tolerate thinking different than his own.
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