re: Aaron Rodgers finished with a QB rating <100 for the first time in 13 games

Anyone think Rodgers is also a product of the talent around him? Don't get me wrong he is really really good, but if manning Brady or brees were put on that team they would be in the same situation.

ok so im going to take the homer out of me . what would brees and the saints have to do for him to get the mvp?

on a cool story bro note, i played golf with rogers in lake charles for a cops n jocks benefit golf tourney. we all got completely hammered and in our drunken stuper on the 17th hole at lauberge(par 3), i won 100 bucks from him on a closest to the hole bet. i put it in the back bunker and he put it on number 16's fairway . for those guys that are familiar with that golf course, he pulled the shiiiiiiiiiiiit out of it :lol:

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if you don't think Big Ben belongs in this group, you are mistaken. He and Brady are the only 2 QB's that have multiple super bowl rings over the past decad

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NB4Dilfer>>>>>>Marino

yea i dont get what he meant with that comment, unless he was talking about eli, but even if he was it wouldnt make sense either.

that last comment got me thinking, who has a better season without their starting qb, without looking at schedule bc that would just be too damn long to look at. cant say indy bc damn we know that answer already

green bay?
n.o?
n.e?
pitt?

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IMHO people misuse the term MVP

Rodgers is clearly having the best year of any player -- but is he really the most valuable? More valuable to his team than Brees? Eli? Or yes, even Tebow?

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The most valuable player is the best player. The best player should have the highest WAR in baseball, PER in basketball, etc. Of course, it would be silly to look just at one grand number to determine a player's worth, but it is definitely a very good starting point. Therefore, this player would be the worth the most to any team because he would be worth more wins than a league average replacement player.