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re: A look back on 2019 lsu vs 2001 Miami and 1995 Nebraska
Posted on 7/15/22 at 2:44 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 7/15/22 at 2:44 pm to lsupride87
I've been on here long enough to remember the majority of people on this board giving Bama fans a hard time about living in the past. Now it's my fellow LSU fans. Hope we have another great team to brag about really soon.
I miss the days when LSU and Florida won four of six Nattys from 2003-2008. Those were some great days to be on the SEC Rant. I have no idea what that site is like now. Haven't been over there in years.
I doubt the SEC Rant could have been successful without LSU fans feeling good about their chances to win the SEC. The timing of Chicken starting up that site is a little like The Ticket coming on the air in Dallas near the end of the 90's Cowboys winning three of four Super Bowls. There weren't as many hot takes when they started up, but there was plenty to talk about. Four or five years after they started up, when to Cowboys were doing well to make the wild card game, the hot takes took over.
I miss the days when LSU and Florida won four of six Nattys from 2003-2008. Those were some great days to be on the SEC Rant. I have no idea what that site is like now. Haven't been over there in years.
I doubt the SEC Rant could have been successful without LSU fans feeling good about their chances to win the SEC. The timing of Chicken starting up that site is a little like The Ticket coming on the air in Dallas near the end of the 90's Cowboys winning three of four Super Bowls. There weren't as many hot takes when they started up, but there was plenty to talk about. Four or five years after they started up, when to Cowboys were doing well to make the wild card game, the hot takes took over.
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Posted on 7/15/22 at 2:45 pm to LNCHBOX
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You should try reading before posting a reply
Posted on 7/15/22 at 2:46 pm to chinese58
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I miss the days when LSU and Florida won four of six Nattys from 2003-2008. Those were some great days to be on the SEC Rant. I have no idea what that site is like now. Haven't been over there in years.
I doubt the SEC Rant could have been successful without LSU fans feeling good about their chances to win the SEC. The timing of Chicken starting up that site is a little like The Ticket coming on the air in Dallas near the end of the 90's Cowboys winning three of four Super Bowls. There weren't as many hot takes when they started up, but there was plenty to talk about. Four or five years after they started up, when to Cowboys were doing well to make the wild card game, the hot takes took over.
Don't think SEC Rant was around during any of those years
Posted on 7/15/22 at 2:48 pm to LNCHBOX
It wasn’t. I remember reading about the 2003 Cubs on the Tiger Rant.
I lurked for the first year.
I lurked for the first year.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 2:53 pm to MetroAtlantaGatorFan
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Gave up 400 rushing yards to Ole Miss yet Nebraska would get shutout. Okay.
Where did I imply that they would be shutout? I said 28-35. That's at least a touchdown per quarter.
Now, going against 2011 Alabama is different. As much as it pains me to say, they may be shutout then.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 2:59 pm to JJ27
Nebraska's opponents had a 53% winning percentage, LSU's had a 59% winning percentage. Another stat in favor of LSU.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 3:56 pm to GentleJackJones
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What rules? What are you even talking about?
You don't know what rules are?
quote:lol
rule
/ro?ol/
noun
set of explicit or understood regulations or principles governing conduct within a particular activity or sphere.
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LSU just game off an emotional win against Alabama, and got up on Ole Miss 31-7 at the end of the 1st quarter. I submit that, with the game being out of hand, LSU became laxed and let off the gas. Did Plumlee have a great game?
Excuses excuses. You know what team didnt have any "emotional wins"? 95 Nebraska they crushed everyone. There is way more evidence that Nebraska could slow LSU Passing game down than LSU could slow Nebraska's run down
quote:They played probably the best passing offense of that year in Florida
Were they? Who were they playing consistently with a great passing offense?
Posted on 7/15/22 at 5:17 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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There is way more evidence that Nebraska could slow LSU Passing game down than LSU could slow Nebraska's run down
Good fricking luck
Posted on 7/15/22 at 5:26 pm to Damone
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Nebraska's opponents had a 53% winning percentage, LSU's had a 59% winning percentage. Another stat in favor of LSU.
LSU also played three extra games against three teams that finished in the Top 10 thanks to a league championship game and the CFP - two things that did not exist in 1995 for Nebraska. That kinda helps LSU's opponents' winning percentage, doesn't it?
This post was edited on 7/15/22 at 5:27 pm
Posted on 7/15/22 at 5:30 pm to RollTide1987
So LSU played a harder schedule. Great point
Posted on 7/15/22 at 5:44 pm to LNCHBOX
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So LSU played a harder schedule.
So did 2009 and 2015 Alabama. Navigating a harder schedule doesn't mean you're a better team per say.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 5:51 pm to RollTide1987
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Navigating a harder schedule doesn't mean you're a better team per say.
It does make you more accomplished though. How else do you want to measure which team is better in this scenario? Has anny team accomplished more than 2019 LSU?
Posted on 7/15/22 at 6:14 pm to LNCHBOX
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It does make you more accomplished though.
No, it doesn't. At the end of the day, 1995 Nebraska and 2019 LSU share the same accomplishments: conference champions and national champions.
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How else do you want to measure which team is better in this scenario?
Easy. How dominant a team was in the season. 1995 Nebraska was more dominant during their run than 2019 LSU was in theirs. Their offense put up better overall numbers, despite being almost totally one dimensional, and played the best teams America had to offer that year while doing it. As TideSaint has already pointed out in this thread, LSU didn't even have the highest average margin of victory in 2019. LSU's that season was 24.8 while 1995 Nebraska's was an incredible 38.6.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 6:49 pm to RollTide1987
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No, it doesn't. At the end of the day, 1995 Nebraska and 2019 LSU share the same accomplishments: conference champions and national champions.
quote:Almost as if they didn't play the competition did. We also pulled Burrow early in a lot of games.
Easy. How dominant a team was in the season. 1995 Nebraska was more dominant during their run than 2019 LSU was in theirs. Their offense put up better overall numbers, despite being almost totally one dimensional, and played the best teams America had to offer that year while doing it. As TideSaint has already pointed out in this thread, LSU didn't even have the highest average margin of victory in 2019. LSU's that season was 24.8 while 1995 Nebraska's was an incredible 38.6.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 6:55 pm to LNCHBOX
Nebraska’s 280lb OL trying to block Tyler Shelvin
we are laughing
LSU by 35
we are laughing LSU by 35
Posted on 7/15/22 at 6:57 pm to LNCHBOX
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Almost as if they didn't play the competition did.
They played the best competition 1995 had to offer that season. They had wins over teams that finished #2, #5, #7, and #9 in the AP poll that year. The average score in all four of those games was an astounding 49-18.
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We also pulled Burrow early in a lot of games.
Nebraska pulled their starters early in the vast majority of their games, too.
This post was edited on 7/15/22 at 6:59 pm
Posted on 7/15/22 at 7:12 pm to RollTide1987
Not that any of the rum dums on this board care about advanced stats, but the S&P+ for both teams is Nebraska 27.7, LSU 33.1. Miami 27.0.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 7:20 pm to RollTide1987
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They played the best competition 1995 had to offer that season. They had wins over teams that finished #2, #5, #7, and #9 in the AP poll that year. The average score in all four of those games was an astounding 49-18.
LSU played better competition though, with wind over 5 of the top 8. Simple fact. you're just the latest Gump that can't handle that 2019 happened. We're really talking about a 1 and 1a scenario here.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 10:01 pm to DBG
Sagarin is regarded as the most accurate of them all.
2019 LSU Sagarin rating: 104.9
2001 Miami Sagarin rating: 106.4
1995 Nebraska Sagarin rating: 117.05
It's not as close as some people think.
Just curious what would have happened had Burrow gone down with an injury? Do you really think Myles Brennan would have gone undefeated?
Nebraska's backup went undefeated in relief when Frazier was out with blood clots. Averaged 7 ypc as a team. They were loaded in every position.
2019 LSU Sagarin rating: 104.9
2001 Miami Sagarin rating: 106.4
1995 Nebraska Sagarin rating: 117.05
It's not as close as some people think.
Just curious what would have happened had Burrow gone down with an injury? Do you really think Myles Brennan would have gone undefeated?
Nebraska's backup went undefeated in relief when Frazier was out with blood clots. Averaged 7 ypc as a team. They were loaded in every position.
This post was edited on 7/22/22 at 6:51 pm
Posted on 7/16/22 at 12:26 pm to LNCHBOX
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LSU played better competition though
You can't judge 2019 competition against 1995 competition or vice versa. You can only judge how those teams did against their peers in the specific year they played. The simple fact of the matter is this, Nebraska was much more dominant against its schedule than LSU was with theirs. 2019 LSU struggled against Texas, Auburn, and Alabama. 2001 Miami struggled against Boston College and Virginia Tech. 1995 Nebraska struggled against no one.
Sure...I can buy the argument that 2019 LSU is the most accomplished team of all-time based upon the quality of the opponents they played. However, 1995 Nebraska is easily the most dominant team in college football history.
This post was edited on 7/16/22 at 12:29 pm
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