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re: 70 teams bowling, 50 are not.

Posted on 12/8/10 at 11:32 am to
Posted by lsutiger2
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2008
8256 posts
Posted on 12/8/10 at 11:32 am to
Thing is you can have a playoff and the bowls.
Posted by BenHOGan
Kansas City
Member since Sep 2005
1775 posts
Posted on 12/8/10 at 11:44 am to
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Thing is you can have a playoff and the bowls.


Oh, now don't go inserting logic into this thing.

I agree with you 100%. You put the 8 or so top teams into the brackets and then, those teams that do not make the playoff get snatched up by the bowls. We get a legitimate champion and the alums, chambers of commerce, sponsors, teevee networks, etc preserve their revenue streams.

Posted by BenHOGan
Kansas City
Member since Sep 2005
1775 posts
Posted on 12/8/10 at 11:46 am to
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I don't get what the problem is. If you don't want to watch, don't watch.


Total agreeance. I wonder if those people saying there are too many bowls really understand that they are advocating for LESS football. I would never do that. Football season is already the shortest of all the seasons. More bowls = more football. I don't care if they are inferior teams playing to half-empty stadiums. More football is good. Less is bad.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54853 posts
Posted on 12/8/10 at 11:46 am to
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I agree with you 100%. You put the 8 or so top teams into the brackets and then, those teams that do not make the playoff get snatched up by the bowls. We get a legitimate champion and the alums, chambers of commerce, sponsors, teevee networks, etc preserve their revenue streams.
IDK, just makes the Bowls more irrelevant than they already are. Might be hard to get the sponsorship money then. But it might work.
Posted by lsutiger2
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2008
8256 posts
Posted on 12/8/10 at 11:47 am to
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Oh, now don't go inserting logic into this thing.

I agree with you 100%. You put the 8 or so top teams into the brackets and then, those teams that do not make the playoff get snatched up by the bowls. We get a legitimate champion and the alums, chambers of commerce, sponsors, teevee networks, etc preserve their revenue streams.

Yup, you have conference champions play in a playoff with couple of wildcards and the rest play in bowls and collect money and swag bags.
Posted by Coastal Tiger
Along the vanishing Louisiana coast
Member since Apr 2005
2291 posts
Posted on 12/8/10 at 11:50 am to
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8 wins should be the minimum to attend a bowl.


Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
63386 posts
Posted on 12/8/10 at 11:54 am to
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8 wins should be the minimum to attend a bowl.




.500 teams should not be bowl eligible
Posted by davesdawgs
Georgia - Class of '75
Member since Oct 2008
20307 posts
Posted on 12/8/10 at 11:55 am to
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8 wins should be the minimum to attend a bowl.


I wouldn't go that far but certainly a winning regular season record at 7-5 should be required.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
63386 posts
Posted on 12/8/10 at 11:56 am to
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The Rose Bowl people will fight you to the death over that one.


James Carville will blow it up for you!
Posted by Crede15
Member since Jun 2009
17250 posts
Posted on 12/8/10 at 12:04 pm to
Making it an 8 win cutoff is completely absurd. It totally ignores strength of schedule. Going 7-5 in the SEC is far more impressive than going 8-4 in the MAC.

Posted by Mindenfan
Minden
Member since Sep 2006
4823 posts
Posted on 12/8/10 at 12:06 pm to
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I remember when a 7-4 LSU team turned down a bowl bid.
A 9-1 LSU team in 1969 got shut out of the Cotton Bowl by Notre Dame, but turned down an offer by the Sun Bowl, I think it was.
Posted by lsutiger2
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2008
8256 posts
Posted on 12/8/10 at 12:07 pm to
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Making it an 8 win cutoff is completely absurd. It totally ignores strength of schedule. Going 7-5 in the SEC is far more impressive than going 8-4 in the MAC.

Just give the MAC minimum bowl spots.
Posted by IHateOrange
Gadsden
Member since Jan 2007
635 posts
Posted on 12/8/10 at 12:10 pm to
I agree with so many bowls, that it is not much of an accomplishment to go 6-6 and go to a middle of nowhere town to play in a no name bowl game. But I also agree that I could watch football from now till next september if they could arrange that many games.
Posted by Crede15
Member since Jun 2009
17250 posts
Posted on 12/8/10 at 12:12 pm to
I still don't see what the problem is regardless. What does it hurt to have these teams play in their crappy bowls? The argument that "The accomplishment of making a bowl has been diluted" is kind of odd to me. The accomplishment is in making a good bowl. I noticed they're having a similar discussion on the MSB and this quote reflects pretty much what I think about it, "I would hope that people wouldn't have to be told which games are important."

I've just heard this so many times and I can't imagine why people would care.
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
34684 posts
Posted on 12/8/10 at 12:12 pm to
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8 wins should be the minimum to attend a bowl.


I said a few weeks ago that the number of bowl teams should be about the same ratio as the number of college basketball teams that make the postseason. Next year, there will be 116 teams that will make a postseason tournament. There are 347 Division 1-A teams in college basketball. Basically 1/3 of all Division 1-A BB teams plays in the postseason. If you apply the same ratio to college football, about 40 teams will play in a bowl game which is 20 bowl games in total. That would be the perfect number.
Posted by Dr Rosenrosen
Member since May 2006
4262 posts
Posted on 12/8/10 at 12:14 pm to
If LSU or Bama goes 6-6, the coaches will gladly accept a bowl bid. It gives you an extra month of practice time, and is especially important for the younger players.
Posted by lsutiger2
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2008
8256 posts
Posted on 12/8/10 at 12:16 pm to
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I still don't see what the problem is regardless. What does it hurt to have these teams play in their crappy bowls? The argument that "The accomplishment of making a bowl has been diluted" is kind of odd to me. The accomplishment is in making a good bowl. I noticed they're having a similar discussion on the MSB and this quote reflects pretty much what I think about it, "I would hope that people wouldn't have to be told which games are important."

I've just heard this so many times and I can't imagine why people would care.

it just deappreciates the value of the bowls. It's like if everyone gets a trophy at the end of tee-ball season. It doesnt really mean anything.

This post was edited on 12/8/10 at 12:19 pm
Posted by accnodefense
Trump Fan
Member since Dec 2010
6279 posts
Posted on 12/8/10 at 12:25 pm to
As a TCU fan most would think I support a playoff system, but I don't, I support the bowl system; perhaps with a Plus-One format.

But what I do support is reducing the number of bowls and getting rid of bowl tie ins except for the champions of conferences. No more SEC #7 or ACC #6 bull shite, tie ins should only be for the champions of conferences and the rest of the bowl slots should be at-large. This way we can avoid bowl matchups such as the TicketCity Bowl this year featuring two teams that went 3-5 in conference play. Without tie ins, Boise State could be in the Holiday Bowl playing Nebraska instead of the boring rematch there.

I think that there should be a rule to where you must at least finish with a .500 record in conference to get to a bowl. I am tired of seeing Kentucky schedule 4 garbage non conference opponents every year and getting to a bowl by going 2-6 in the SEC. They have done this more than once.

I also support the idea of not allowing any wins over FCS teams to count towards bowl eligibility. This means you must be over .500 against FBS opponents to be bowl eligible.

You must be at least 7-5 to go to a bowl. No more 6-6 teams.

Also, teams that are 6-6 or 7-5 should not be playing on or past New Year's Day under any circumstances. New Year's Day should be reserved for the elite. It's stupid that 6-6 Florida State is playing on New Year's Day last year in the Gator Bowl when far more deserving teams played earlier.

I think these ideas are common sense that most fans would agree with.
This post was edited on 12/8/10 at 12:28 pm
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71111 posts
Posted on 12/8/10 at 12:31 pm to
I think 15-20 bowl games are the maximum numbers that should be allowed.
This post was edited on 12/8/10 at 12:31 pm
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