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re: 4 teams. With requirement to be Conf Champ in there.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 7:40 am to Buckeye06
Posted on 11/27/16 at 7:40 am to Buckeye06
The problem is you have a different playoff committee this year. If we still had the original one Ohio State would not get in based on their criteria they had in 2014 for keeping TCU out. They didn't play (or have) for a conference championship game so they got left out. Maybe it will take Ohio State getting left out for us to expand this playoffs. Although then you'd have like 4 Big Ten teams in this year and everyone would bitch anyway. We really need to go back to the computers and take the human element out of the playoff selection.
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 7:45 am to YNWA
I don't feel like typing it out again but 2014 changed a ton in the last week. Tcu lost a quality win and one of their quality wins got worse, OSU beat a top 15 team by 60. Baylor passed them on head to head and when okie state beat OU it hurt their resume as well
This year is nothing similar. If okie st beats OU it will hurt OSUs resume but OU will be top 15 end of year anyway
This year is nothing similar. If okie st beats OU it will hurt OSUs resume but OU will be top 15 end of year anyway
Posted on 11/27/16 at 7:47 am to YNWA
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If we still had the original one Ohio State would not get in based on their criteria they had in 2014 for keeping TCU out.
Not the same thing.
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We really need to go back to the computers and take the human element out of the playoff selection.
We should. It's interesting how that looks right now.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 7:57 am to YNWA
Okay well if you're using computer formulas. Ohio state gets in without question.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:02 am to YNWA
quote:In each of the first two years, the playoff teams mirrored the top four in the Massey Composite, a giant matrix of every rating system known to man.
We really need to go back to the computers and take the human element out of the playoff selection.
Top five right now in Massey:
1 Alabama
2 Ohio State
3 Michigan
4 Clemson
5 Washington
3-4-5 are close enough that Clemson and Washington likely will jump if they win. There's your four, and the computers and humans will agree for the third straight year.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:06 am to Weagle25
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Not sure why y'all want to let these "wildcards" in. You didn't win your Conf. You don't deserve to win a National Championship. Take the 4 conference champions with the best resume.
Or just take the four best teams, brainiac.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:11 am to 420centraltime
quote:Did an Alabama fan actually write that?
Pretty much how I feel. Alabama, PSU, and Clemson all have to play another tough game and risk having key players injured.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:16 am to ballscaster
Correct..... OSU should be in. But the big ten champ should be as well.....
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:23 am to Bench McElroy
This post was edited on 11/8/20 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:25 am to dukke v
quote:That one isn't as clear. Here's who is definitely ahead of the B1G champ:
Correct..... OSU should be in. But the big ten champ should be as well.....
1. Alabama (better record, tougher schedule)
2. Ohio State (better record, tougher schedule)
3. Clemson (better record, similar schedule)
4. Washington (better record, slightly weaker schedule)
The only argument the B1G champ will have is with Washington, but the computers (and humans) likely will rate Washington more highly, defeating virtually any decent B1G champ argument.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 10:20 am to Weagle25
quote:No thanks, I'll take the top 4 teams, regardless of conference.
You didn't win your Conf. You don't deserve to win a National Championship
If 3 of the top 4 teams are in 1 conference, that 1 conference should have 3 teams in a 4 team playoff, rather obviously.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 10:20 am to Weagle25
quote:Psssttt, your OP does not do that.
The system shouldn't be set up to get the most entertaining result
Posted on 11/27/16 at 10:21 am to msutiger
quote:That's actually literally how it worked in 2011, so you couldn't be more wrong.
Yeah, that's not how it works. You don't get the title of best team in college football when you are unable to earn the title of "Best Team in my Division"
Posted on 11/27/16 at 10:23 am to NawlinsTiger9
quote:The playoffs work to put the best 4 teams in the playoffs...that's it.
If a team can't be the best team out of 7 throughout an 8-game sample size, then that team needs to sit their arse at home and watch the playoffs on TV.
It's the elimination before the elimination. Or at least it should be.
That criteria alone makes your post off base IMO.
It's not about trying to pick the best team, it's the best 4. You don't have to have any argument whatsoever as the best team in the nation or being better than that other team in your conference, that's irrelevant.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 10:30 am to Scruffy
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Did an Alabama fan actually write that?
Sure did. Still salty over 1/9?
Not Alabamas fault Okie State didn't take care of business.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 10:39 am to Kraut Dawg
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The difference is that, in all of those sports, the division champion is guaranteed a sport. In fact, they're given a home-field advantage.
I don't have an opinion either way. Both arguments have their merits.
That's actually false. The NBA recently changed their playoff format where they removed division winners from getting a guaranteed playoff spot.
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1. A division winner might not make the playoffs at all. Simply put, the top eight teams in each conference, according to overall record, will get in the playoffs, and they will be seeded according to those records. Winning your division now means nothing more than a banner in the rafters, if you're still into that sort of thing. Last year the Blazers got a top-4 seed without a top-five record because they won the Northwest division, and as a result, the Spurs, who had a better record, got the No. 6 seed. That won't happen anymore.
To be clear, a division winner isn't even guaranteed a playoff spot at all anymore. It's unlikely that a division winner would finish outside of the top-eight conference records, but it's possible now, and given how terrible the Atlantic division has been over the last few years, it's definitely on the table at least.
This is good news for those teams that play in tough divisions like the Central or Southwest, and a fair adjustment. If you can't make a top-eight record, you don't deserve a playoff spot, period.
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 10:43 am to 420centraltime
Salty? Nope. Don't care. I grew up and got over obsessing over college sports years ago.
Just really hypocritical is all.
No matter who y'all play, hopefully y'all lose.
Just really hypocritical is all.
No matter who y'all play, hopefully y'all lose.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 10:47 am to Scruffy
The NFL discussion is so dumb. in the NFL you play all your division opponents home and away. OSU may have lost to Michigan at Michigan and beat PSU at home. There is no way to know
CFB is hugely influenced by home field advantages, so that should weigh in
CFB is hugely influenced by home field advantages, so that should weigh in
Posted on 11/27/16 at 11:26 am to Weagle25
On k e hand that's throw the committee has been doing it so they should at least be consistent.
On the other hand I thought the reason we went to 4 teams and a committee was so the 4 best get in.
On the other hand I thought the reason we went to 4 teams and a committee was so the 4 best get in.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 11:51 am to 420centraltime
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Okie State didn't take care of business.
Except that they did, as far as this bullshite goes.
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