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re: 30 for 30: Trojan War - anyone else find it pretty terrible?

Posted on 10/14/15 at 8:37 am to
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/14/15 at 8:37 am to
It was a little early to do a 30/30 on that program that is so recent.
USC had some good teams but it would have been nice to see some matchups with some teams they never got to play like that 03 LSU team or the 04 Auburn team.

A playoff would have been nice those years for sure.
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 10/14/15 at 8:56 am to
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USC had some good teams but it would have been nice to see some matchups with some teams they never got to play like that 03 LSU team or the 04 Auburn team.

A playoff would have been nice those years for sure.


All I could think about the whole time.
Posted by LSUTIGER in TEXAS
Member since Jan 2008
13683 posts
Posted on 10/14/15 at 9:00 am to
i was surprised there was a 21 year heisman drought out west. college football was freaking dead out west in 2000. oregon was in its infancy as a flashy, run and gun team. washington was crap. stanford was a mess. cal was good under tedford, but its cal, and tedford didnt exactly accumulate hardware. karl dorrel......


basically, the mid/early 2000 SC teams started momentum for college football out west, and college football is alot better for it.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 10/14/15 at 9:40 am to
i liked it for what it was. an hour and a half highlight reel. Wasn't overly informative or ground breaking, but i enjoyed it. those teams were awesome
Posted by Mr Personality
Bangkok
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 10/14/15 at 9:43 am to
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washington was crap.


UW was good in 2000. 11-1 and Rose Bowl champions. They beat Miami and lost by 7 in Eugene. They fell apart after that season, though.
This post was edited on 10/14/15 at 9:44 am
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
32330 posts
Posted on 10/14/15 at 9:50 am to
Thought they could have gone a bit more in depth about the 2003 controversy. To not even mention it seems a little strange to me.

Pretty weak for a 30 for 30, as I have grown to expect excellence from their documentaries. Both U documentaries and the Pony Express blow this out of the water.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
58499 posts
Posted on 10/14/15 at 9:53 am to
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Leinart, Bush, White and Jarret were completely overhyped!! Their lack of NFL success backs that up imo


what does NFL success have to do with a players college career? I mean by that logic, guys like Tebow, Russell, Wuerfel, Ward, etc were all overhyped players as well, right? IMO, this is arguably one of the dumbest arguments in sports these days.
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
24886 posts
Posted on 10/14/15 at 9:57 am to
Glad I didn't watch it then.

The playoff would have been great every year of the BCS era starting in 1998 when you had undefeated Tennessee and 6 1 loss power 5 teams.

You can basically pick a year and it would have been awesome. There were years it didn't make sense like 2002 and 2005 but you still never know. OSU 2005 took Texas to the limit and were still not sticking with Troy Smith at QB since he had the booster crap the year before, and 2005 OSU lost 2 games
Posted by JBeam
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 10/14/15 at 9:59 am to
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what does NFL success have to do with a players college career? I mean by that logic, guys like Tebow, Russell, Wuerfel, Ward, etc were all overhyped players as well, right? IMO, this is arguably one of the dumbest arguments in sports these days.

It's pretty common knowledge that the majority of fans have a hard time separating CFB success and Pro Career success. People are pretty fricking stupid.
Posted by JBeam
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 10/14/15 at 10:02 am to
Wasn't that bad. Plus the story of Pete Carroll Trojans is pretty well documented already. You can't really compare this to the Miami documentaries because so much about them was kept quiet (Do to the lack of social media).
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91265 posts
Posted on 10/14/15 at 10:03 am to
I guess, but even then, you'd think they'd discuss the 2006 squad that was as talented as ever on defense, IIRC.

Just disappointed that is easy packaged under the 30 for 30 name but came off like a fluff piece, especially considering the piece had plenty of potential considering the subject matter.

Perhaps it was too recent, but you can't cover those teams without any contributions from Carroll or Bush.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33843 posts
Posted on 10/14/15 at 10:05 am to
It wasn't bad, but could've been better.

I like watching these to get information that you didn't have before and we didn't get any of that.
This post was edited on 10/14/15 at 10:07 am
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 10/14/15 at 10:12 am to
I don't blame Bush for declining to be apart of this doc.

The '06 squad had tons of talent. But absolutely no star quality.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
88321 posts
Posted on 10/14/15 at 10:15 am to
It was a glorified highlight reel with zero substance. I couldn't even tell what the director wanted his own movie to be. My favorite aspect of it was LenDale White. He didn't hold back.

Was there any video of the defense destroying fools??? I love me some Reggie Bush, but I've seen his highlights a thousand times. That's all it was.
This post was edited on 10/14/15 at 10:20 am
Posted by JBeam
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Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 10/14/15 at 10:28 am to
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It was a glorified highlight reel with zero substance. I couldn't even tell what the director wanted his own movie to be. My favorite aspect of it was LenDale White. He didn't hold back.

He doesn't like Pete Carroll because of the way he let him go in Seattle. The director clearly tried to connect the USC program to the hollywood scene (Probably the reason they had the guy from "The Graduate" in it).
Posted by Miganey
Austin, Tx
Member since Feb 2013
3781 posts
Posted on 10/14/15 at 10:30 am to
The Pac10 was garbage back then, they forgot to mention that too
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
88321 posts
Posted on 10/14/15 at 10:34 am to
I missed the first 15 minutes, so I might be off on some things.


Everyone knows how the program was surrounded by Hollywood personalities and whatnot. I wanted to see practices where the sideline looked like an Oscar red carpet. All the showed was Snoop walking around with Pete and then Snoop being a complete idiot. I like me some Snoop, but I'm tired of hearing him say "frick yeah cuh, go USC yo!"
This post was edited on 10/14/15 at 10:35 am
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
37641 posts
Posted on 10/14/15 at 10:41 am to
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The problem with USC was they only won one national championship


Actually two. 2003, 2004
Posted by fightingtigers98
Member since Oct 2011
13290 posts
Posted on 10/14/15 at 10:45 am to
No you won one, LSU won in 03. You can try and claim it as a split but LSU won the NCG
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
215934 posts
Posted on 10/14/15 at 10:46 am to
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Actually two. 2003, 2004
















Actually.....ONE............
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