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Posted on 3/24/25 at 9:57 am to
Posted by OU Guy
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Posted on 3/24/25 at 9:57 am to
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Supposedly Glen and Leonard picked up on some things about stagger and weight distribution from Lotus while they were at Indy that they were able to take South and use to their advantage in their main gig.


That begs the question. With rules so tight and so much common template stuff how much can you move weight around? Everything is controlled in Nascar. Where you place weights is too, and has to be secured to not fall off which is huge fine.

I also believe Nascar learns all the tricks when they take cars back for teardown. And I think Nascar leaks the secrets to other teams via 3rd party sources to keep a level field.
Posted by OU Guy
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Posted on 3/24/25 at 10:10 am to
Interesting data

Cup Series after 6 races:

Each driver's Average Finish and Average Running Position



Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 3/24/25 at 10:10 am to
Well since Glen is dead and Leonard is 90 and long retired, I'm betting the info they gleaned at Indy was employed in a bygone era where there was a lot more ingenuity involved. You can't do jack caca with such things today.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
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Posted on 3/24/25 at 11:44 am to
That's beautiful
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
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Posted on 3/24/25 at 11:50 am to
Yes, individual teams should have more leeway to innovate. That's part of what made the sport great.
Posted by OU Guy
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Posted on 3/25/25 at 11:59 am to
NHRA almost as popular as F1 and Indy car

Adam Stern
@A_S12

Motorsports viewership in America last weekend:

1) NASCAR Cup (FS1): 2.464 million viewers
2) NASCAR Xfinity (The CW): 1.160 million
3) NASCAR Trucks (Fox): 906,000
4) F1 (ESPN): 824,000
5) IndyCar (Fox): 704,000
6) NHRA (FS1): 669,000
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
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Posted on 3/25/25 at 12:12 pm to
How many more viewers would NASCAR have on big Fox?
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 3/25/25 at 12:25 pm to
And how many more viewers would Indycar have if not put head to head vs Nascar
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
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Posted on 3/25/25 at 1:20 pm to
Dumb programming.
Posted by Bubba23XI
Member since Mar 2025
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Posted on 3/25/25 at 7:41 pm to
FOX is horrible for NASCAR. Mike Joy is asleep half the time. No energy in their broadcast
Posted by OU Guy
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Posted on 3/25/25 at 7:49 pm to
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FOX is horrible for NASCAR. Mike Joy is asleep half the time. No energy in their broadcast


You could put 3 12 year old boys in booth and it would be better. I do like Happy he adds value. But all their voice tones are mundane mixed together.

The only excitement is when Joy yells “spinner in turn 4”.
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 3/25/25 at 8:53 pm to
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FOX is horrible for NASCAR. Mike Joy is asleep half the time. No energy in their broadcast


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Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 3/26/25 at 8:14 am to
Mike Joy will be 76 years old in November. Everyone isn't Vin Scully who kept his broadcasting chops forever, or Bob Uecker who never lost his humor even when his voice was gone. There's no reason for people in their eighth decade of life to still be a sport's lead announcer. Get some energy in there. Al Michaels is another example.
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 3/26/25 at 2:04 pm to
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FOX is horrible for NASCAR. Mike Joy is asleep half the time. No energy in their broadcast


I've been saying this since day one when they got the contract to broadcast the races. From the very beginning their production treated the viewers like they are children. Their commercial breaks are numerous and repetitive.Their broadcast booth until DW retired, was a childish playpen of goofballs fluffing each others egos for most of the race broadcasts.

I grew up during the days of Ken Squire, Buddy Baker, Ned Jarrett, Bob Jenkins and BP in the broadcasts. FOX has never come close to providing the coverage and energy that those guys did.

This post was edited on 3/26/25 at 2:05 pm
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 3/26/25 at 4:49 pm to
Alan Bestwick.

ETA: @ the Bestwick hate. Dude is the best racing PBP man in the business. Name one better. I'll wait
This post was edited on 3/26/25 at 9:22 pm
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
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Posted on 3/26/25 at 6:37 pm to
Don't forget guys like Dick Bergren and Doctor Jerry Punch in the pits.
And a tip of the hat to that all-around broadcaster/driver, David Hobbs, the Upper Boddington Flash.
Posted by tWildcat
Verona, KY
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 3/26/25 at 7:44 pm to
Glad I’m not the only one that thinks the FOX announcers are dull. They show no emotion at all. Just a monotone dialogue.
This post was edited on 3/28/25 at 4:15 pm
Posted by Bubba23XI
Member since Mar 2025
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Posted on 3/27/25 at 10:36 am to
I’m looking forward to Amazon broadcasts and getting Dale Jr back in the booth.

Posted by XenScott
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Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 3/27/25 at 12:19 pm to
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That begs the question. With rules so tight and so much common template stuff how much can you move weight around? Everything is controlled in Nascar. Where you place weights is too, and has to be secured to not fall off which is huge fine.

I also believe Nascar learns all the tricks when they take cars back for teardown. And I think Nascar leaks the secrets to other teams via 3rd party sources to keep a level field.


As I understand it there are approved, single supplier parts that can be used. Multiple springs, shocks, sway bars are on there. There are also multiple connection points that can be used for suspension parts.

I don't know if there are multiple control arms,,or just adjustable geometries on the uppers, shims etc.

Basically its adjustable in setup only. With that comes a little aero but only in how they can do it with suspension.
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 3/27/25 at 4:03 pm to
This looks interesting. Creative designing

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