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re: 2024 NASCAR Season Thread - 2024-25 Offseason
Posted on 7/22/24 at 12:04 pm to InkStainedWretch
Posted on 7/22/24 at 12:04 pm to InkStainedWretch
No one is questioning that.
What people are questioning is the fact that the third place car was practically elevated to the first place car UNDER CAUTION.
Blaney is exactly right here. The restart should have been waved off. When Kez dropped off Blaney should have been given the option of lane choice.
At a track where lane choice is clearly at a premium this was obvious to everyone but the morons in NASCAR's both calling the shots.
And to be clear I'm no Larson hater. The kid is hella talented but that was a bullshite finish no matter who the impacted drivers were.
What people are questioning is the fact that the third place car was practically elevated to the first place car UNDER CAUTION.
Blaney is exactly right here. The restart should have been waved off. When Kez dropped off Blaney should have been given the option of lane choice.
At a track where lane choice is clearly at a premium this was obvious to everyone but the morons in NASCAR's both calling the shots.
And to be clear I'm no Larson hater. The kid is hella talented but that was a bullshite finish no matter who the impacted drivers were.
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Posted on 7/22/24 at 12:08 pm to AwesomeSauce
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Yep, it's a damned if you do, damned if you don't for NASCAR there. Throw the Yellow and chance this being Nashville 2.0 with half the field being close on fuel, or let the 5 take the white and then throw it. No matter what they picked NASCAR fans were going to complain about it. With Nashville being so fresh and Indy being such hallowed ground I have no issue with them doing what they did and not chancing the disgrace that was Nashville to occur on a track where they are a guest. Now if we have the same thing happen at Richmond in three weeks, throw the yellow and let the chaos ensue.
Nascar is not involved with fuel savings or lack of fuel. Strictly safety and for that they failed. All yellows are safety related. They can’t and won’t get into fuel issues.
They blew it as this was a much bigger safety issue than the tire carcus earlier.
Posted on 7/22/24 at 12:10 pm to bamarep
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What people are questioning is the fact that the third place car was practically elevated to the first place car UNDER CAUTION.
That is and has been the rule forever! Its not even under question except by newer fans.
During a race if any car drops out that line always moves up. Always has.
Posted on 7/22/24 at 1:31 pm to OU Guy
It’s like NASCAR weighs how much each decision would be scrutinized, and they pick the worst possible one.
It’s like they want the smoke. I don’t get it.
It’s like they want the smoke. I don’t get it.
Posted on 7/22/24 at 2:00 pm to OU Guy
Blaney and his crew chief should have said the hell with speculating on exactly what spot Keselowski would run out of fuel and taken the inside spot and been done with it. I’m wondering if The Captain might point that out to them at the post-race post mortem. I’m sure he wasn’t pleased.
Posted on 7/22/24 at 2:45 pm to AwesomeSauce
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chance this being Nashville 2.0 with half the field being close on fuel,
Heaven forbid managing fuel should be part of racing.
We already have the stupid stages.
What's next? More comp cautions to make sure no one ever runs out?
Posted on 7/22/24 at 3:14 pm to Tigertown in ATL
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Heaven forbid managing fuel should be part of racing.
It is, and it should be, but it's kinda hard to do when an unknown and unlimited amount of laps could be added to the end of a race at any time. It starts to be less about strategy and more about luck.
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What's next? More comp cautions to make sure no one ever runs out?
Seems to me they could just run the scheduled distance and wave the checkers. Would eliminate a lot of problems, but that's just me.
Posted on 7/22/24 at 3:26 pm to Cliff Booth
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It is, and it should be, but it's kinda hard to do when an unknown and unlimited amount of laps could be added to the end of a race at any time. It starts to be less about strategy and more about luck.
Its a tough question. If you had enough fuel for 500 miles in a 500 mile race and lose because you didn't have enough for 503, that is objectively a negative outcome for the sport perception wise IMO and just kind of wrong from a competition standpoint. Its like another team fouling your opponent so they get to shoot free throws to tie instead of you running out the clock. But also having something like the ability to use the pits at the start of the first overtime without losing your spot also doesn't feel right either, even though that would at least give everyone a level playing field.
Posted on 7/22/24 at 3:30 pm to Cliff Booth
quote:When they did that though the fans complained because it didn't end racing but just glorified parade laps. NASCAR just got done wiping the egg off their face from Nashville and the charade that became at the end. Even their own media partners were laying into them and the entire week after was about how NASCAR had to fix it. NASCAR decided when they had the chance to ignore the car for half a lap while the field was 1.5 miles away to see if he could get fired up and get going that it would afford them that opportunity.
Seems to me they could just run the scheduled distance and wave the checkers. Would eliminate a lot of problems, but that's just me.
Now today the same people who complained about Nashville on social media and on air are asking why NASCAR didn't throw the flag here.
I like chaos personally so I wanted the flag to come out and see if Blaney would try and give Larson the boot if he was lined up behind him on another restart. I also know that the 4 to 5 cars that ran out on the cool down would have ran out when they tried to fire it up taking the green so we would have seen some crazy stuff that would 100% be NASCAR. I get why they did, wish they didn't, and know over half of NASCAR fans would complain if they changed the hue of the green flag.
Posted on 7/22/24 at 4:15 pm to AwesomeSauce
NASCAR fans are the biggest whiners in all of sports.
Posted on 7/22/24 at 4:53 pm to AwesomeSauce
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NASCAR just got done wiping the egg off their face from Nashville and the charade that became at the end. Even their own media partners were laying into them and the entire week after was about how NASCAR had to fix it. NASCAR decided when they had the chance to ignore the car for half a lap while the field was 1.5 miles away to see if he could get fired up and get going that it would afford them that opportunity.
Now today the same people who complained about Nashville on social media and on air are asking why NASCAR didn't throw the flag here.
100%. That's why I'm just not a fan of extending the race to begin with. It's almost impossible to avoid the shitshow. It's gonna happen one way or the other.
Some races would have great endings and some wouldn't, but I think it should happen organically. It would be more memorable when you get the good ones.
It's not only NASCAR that does this either. F1 has done similar shite with red flags with a couple laps to go and it's the same story. Bunch of torn up cars and angry drivers. And not much good racing.
Posted on 7/22/24 at 5:48 pm to OU Guy
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That is and has been the rule forever!
I know that. What I'm (and millions of other fans) are questioning is the NASCAR decision to NOT give Blaney (then the defacto race leader) the choice to take the inside or outside lane. They made the decision for him and it's bullshite.
Posted on 7/22/24 at 6:40 pm to bamarep
Just because something has always been the rule doesn’t make it right. You had the leader and control car pull off coming to green. Wave off the restart. Then re-choose. What’s another 2 caution laps?
Posted on 7/22/24 at 6:52 pm to Cliff Booth
Talk to the heathen Dale Jr. fans who acted like horse’s asses at Talladega and unleashed this whole GWC garbage.
Posted on 7/22/24 at 6:54 pm to Cliff Booth
Nothing was wrong with ties in football, and nothing was wrong with races ending under caution
Posted on 7/22/24 at 6:54 pm to MikeHoncho47
In reality it would have only been one lap, just for Larson and Blaney to switch lanes.
But if truth be told, the original yellow on Busch's incident shouldn't have been thrown. He slapped the wall and kept moving. He NEVER stopped. The race could have finished under green.
That's what has people like me so pissed off is the inconsistency. Busch never stops rolling and a caution immediately comes out. Preece crashes and sits ON THE TRACK for over 1/2 a lap before they throw the yellow. Just long enough for Larson to take the white flag.
But if truth be told, the original yellow on Busch's incident shouldn't have been thrown. He slapped the wall and kept moving. He NEVER stopped. The race could have finished under green.
That's what has people like me so pissed off is the inconsistency. Busch never stops rolling and a caution immediately comes out. Preece crashes and sits ON THE TRACK for over 1/2 a lap before they throw the yellow. Just long enough for Larson to take the white flag.
Posted on 7/22/24 at 7:05 pm to bamarep
Uh, because the rules don’t allow for what you suggest even if fans think it would be the fair and equitable thing to do?
Again if Blaney had taken the inside to start with as he should have done and not overthought the situation and tried to predict when Keselowski was going to run out of gas, we wouldn’t be having this argument.
Again if Blaney had taken the inside to start with as he should have done and not overthought the situation and tried to predict when Keselowski was going to run out of gas, we wouldn’t be having this argument.
Posted on 7/22/24 at 7:25 pm to InkStainedWretch
Hopefully NASCAR adds a re-choose option in the event this happens again.
And while we’re on the things need to change tangent…
About stages…. Can we have some arbitrary number of laps to go in stages where we just declare the stage over and get the race back to green sooner? It’s dumb to run 3 laps of caution just to end the stage, then teams pit, and we end up with 7-8 laps of caution, before going back to green. It’s so maddening.
And while we’re on the things need to change tangent…
About stages…. Can we have some arbitrary number of laps to go in stages where we just declare the stage over and get the race back to green sooner? It’s dumb to run 3 laps of caution just to end the stage, then teams pit, and we end up with 7-8 laps of caution, before going back to green. It’s so maddening.
Posted on 7/23/24 at 12:55 pm to MikeHoncho47
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Hopefully NASCAR adds a re-choose option in the event this happens again.
Why? Every driver knows the rules and take the risk when they make their choice. There is no way in hell Nascar will change this. Under your option that would require an extra lap. As it is, the 2nd place car becomes the control car and still have that advantage.
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About stages…. Can we have some arbitrary number of laps to go in stages where we just declare the stage over and get the race back to green sooner? It’s dumb to run 3 laps of caution just to end the stage, then teams pit, and we end up with 7-8 laps of caution, before going back to green. It’s so maddening.
Agree 100%. And to go further, as soon as pit lane opens every car pits not just leaders. Then they go around and take the 1 to go as they choose. So many wasted laps parading around.
Posted on 7/23/24 at 12:56 pm to MikeHoncho47
NSFW. Language.
And I don't wanna hear anymore on here or anywhere else that Chase is NASCAR's "Golden Boy" b/c we all know who it is.
That's twice in a month that he's been dicked up the arse by a bullshite penalty. Last week at Pocono was the only legit one.
And I don't wanna hear anymore on here or anywhere else that Chase is NASCAR's "Golden Boy" b/c we all know who it is.
That's twice in a month that he's been dicked up the arse by a bullshite penalty. Last week at Pocono was the only legit one.
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