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Posted on 7/21/24 at 7:09 pm to
Posted by SkiUtah420
Member since Jul 2023
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Posted on 7/21/24 at 7:09 pm to
That was awesome. No one can touch Larson in this series.

Although, it is a sacrilege to end any race at Indianapolis with “oVeRTiME” and Green white checkers
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
5364 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 7:11 pm to
OK, some folks at a strictly racing board I post at are saying that Blaney is out in the woods here, that under NASCAR rules the third-place car can move up to the front row if something happens to the leader like today with Keselowski. I’m not saying that is true or not, but does anyone have a NASCAR rule book that could clarify?
This post was edited on 7/21/24 at 7:16 pm
Posted by SkiUtah420
Member since Jul 2023
1139 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 7:13 pm to
quote:

NASCAR just sabotaged the finish of one of their Crown Jewels



No , the crown jewel should not end on a gimmick. the race should have ended when Kyle Busch crashed… and Larson was in the lead
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
5364 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 7:18 pm to
Following up on my last post which was INCORRECT and I corrected, what folks at the racing board are saying is that under NASCAR rules the third-place car can move up to the front row if something happens to the leader on a restart like today. Can anyone with a rule book prove or disprove that?
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
46425 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 7:31 pm to
I remember announcers saying only competitors can have a copy of the rule book.
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
30011 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 8:00 pm to
The technical answer is and always has been:

The leader pulls off that row moves up (during race).

The 2nd place car becomes the the control car.

It appeared to me that Blaney and Larson left about same time at the end of the restart zone. Rules say if leader has not gone by then its ok for rest to go.

If anything Blaney didn’t know the rules and mucked up the restart. I know Larson and Hendrick haters will not want to hear this.

And the late wreck was 100% incompetence by Nascar. It happens almost every race. Hamlin restart earlier year. Charlotte called way early on holiday weekend.

Anyone who’s watched for years knows this is not Larson, its Nascar and them ruining the sport. Its been going on and every driver has either gained or lost because of their rulings over careers.

Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
5364 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 8:06 pm to
Sad, I remember when I was a kid you sent $1.95 or something like that to Daytona Beach and they’d send you one. And it wasn’t that big. God only knows what it looks like now.

Blaney has cooled off and is basically saying it was just “caca happens” and it was more unfair than illegal that Larson benefited from Keselowski’s misfortune.

He said he’d have taken the inside spot which is the place to be at Indy but he was convinced that Keselowski would run out in the restart zone and he’d be home free, but he ran out before then and had enough time to get to pit road, which I guess is why Larson was allowed to pull up to the front row.
Posted by SkiUtah420
Member since Jul 2023
1139 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 8:07 pm to
imagine being a Kyle Larson Hater


He knows what Indy means. The track picks the winner .
Posted by tWildcat
Verona, KY
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 7/21/24 at 8:36 pm to
Posted by SkiUtah420
Member since Jul 2023
1139 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 8:52 pm to



david land spot on per usual
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
30011 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 9:01 pm to
This is the idiot that runs this shitshow. He is correct in first part (restart rules) but is full of shite on seeing if 41goes. He was stuck with flat tire, they knew it too. And it flies in the face of fake cautions during boring races.

No one is talking why the outrage started. It was Preece in 41 car appeared to run out of gas and got hit. That was their gamble and it caused lots of commotion. Imagine had Kes stayed out, the whole field might have wrecked lol.

Heres the idiot.

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This post was edited on 7/21/24 at 9:02 pm
Posted by MikeHoncho47
Member since Aug 2016
1909 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 9:06 pm to
He needs to go back to banging Patty Moise.
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
5364 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 9:12 pm to
Honestly, I don’t have a problem all things being even with no caution at the end because I think he was far enough out of the way, and IMO they sometimes are too quick to throw cautions to try to promote exciting finishes.

But that’s the problem, all things aren’t equal because they aren’t consistent with cautions and too often throw them to manipulate.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
46425 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 9:27 pm to
Sawyer was a middling Busch driver who couldn't cut it in the Cup series, and managed to fall upward.
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
30011 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 11:05 pm to
quote:

Honestly, I don’t have a problem all things being even with no caution at the end because I think he was far enough out of the way, and IMO they sometimes are too quick to throw cautions to try to promote exciting finishes.

But that’s the problem, all things aren’t equal because they aren’t consistent with cautions and too often throw them to manipulate.


Its not being oit of the way moving its being stationary. If someone is moving slow in service road but moving forward that allows everyone to make evasive moves if a follow on wreck. If not moving they are sitting duck in case of another wreck. He was not moving he was stuck. They knew this before cars got to turn 3. They ignored it. Plus they throw yellow for a tire carcus that was on infield yet car was moving earlier.

And for conspiracy guys, last week Larson and Elliott both got speeding tickets. So much for that favoritism.
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
5364 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 8:18 am to
You’re absolutely right, I guess my thought was “they have two turns to go, let them take their chances and get the damn thing over with!”

I understand why they changed it and I am 100% for safety but sometimes I miss racing back to the caution flag. It was much less complicated.

My point about inconsistency still stands.
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
30011 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 9:32 am to
The wreck happened on first of two laps. They waited for the white flag because race is over then. Throw it when needed it means another GWY, and they didn’t want that.
Posted by AwesomeSauce
Das Boot
Member since May 2015
11455 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 9:38 am to
Yep, it's a damned if you do, damned if you don't for NASCAR there. Throw the Yellow and chance this being Nashville 2.0 with half the field being close on fuel, or let the 5 take the white and then throw it. No matter what they picked NASCAR fans were going to complain about it. With Nashville being so fresh and Indy being such hallowed ground I have no issue with them doing what they did and not chancing the disgrace that was Nashville to occur on a track where they are a guest. Now if we have the same thing happen at Richmond in three weeks, throw the yellow and let the chaos ensue.
Posted by SDwhodat
Member since Apr 2007
2651 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 11:36 am to
This is not directed at you: And yet people always complained about Fox's coverage. At least when I tried to record the race on Fox or FS1, I was actually able to see the whole thing even if it was delayed or ran long. Me personally: Fox Nascar >NBC Nascar.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
46425 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 11:56 am to
As i said earlier, they would never do that to football, baseball, or basketball
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