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re: 2024 NASCAR Season Thread - 2024-25 Offseason
Posted on 7/16/24 at 12:37 pm to AwesomeSauce
Posted on 7/16/24 at 12:37 pm to AwesomeSauce
I didn't know that he'd been this bad. I knew he was struggling but geez that's bad.
And Dillon is a nepo baby and a little bitch, but he has talent. He has 4 wins, including the 600, granted it was a fuel mileage race but he was still in position to win .
And Dillon is a nepo baby and a little bitch, but he has talent. He has 4 wins, including the 600, granted it was a fuel mileage race but he was still in position to win .
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Posted on 7/16/24 at 12:56 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
quote:He has a 600 and a 500 which all said and done cannot be taken away. His other two wins were the Reddick making sure his teammate made the playoffs races at Texas and Daytona. That 600 and 500 though are pretty distant in the mirror at this point.
He has 4 wins, including the 600, granted it was a fuel mileage race but he was still in position to win .
Corey is just one of those guys for me that are hard to judge. He reminds me a lot of Bowman before he landed in the 88. He is a good dude, knows racing, and just hasn't had an opportunity to show how much he belongs.
Its hard to judge the non-exceptional guys who have talent in those backmarkers or 'tier 3' as they cal them now. I really wish a team like Spire or Rick Ware would make a run at getting Honda or another manufacturer in that would make them tier 1 teams. I think Toyota does a good job at helping their teams and I expect Legacy to make some strides as they catch up with Toyota like 23XI did year 1 to year 2. Ford and Chevy just don't seem to care about teams beyond tier 2. If I had to make a list of the tiers without knowing but knowing. Chevy is: Tier 1: HMS, Tier2: RCR & Trackhouse, and then everyone else. Ford is: Tier 1: Penske/21 car, Tier 2: RFK & Front Row, and everyone else. I would be leaning real hard if I was in that everyone else category to try and sway another manufacturer into the sport.
Posted on 7/16/24 at 1:54 pm to AwesomeSauce
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Question for you. If you had one seat available in a tier 2 ride and the options were Dillon, Lajoie, or Burton who would you put in it based off the results over the last 30ish races?
I’d sell the charter if those were my only options.
Put your Lajoie boner away. There are kids in here.
Posted on 7/16/24 at 1:55 pm to AwesomeSauce
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He reminds me a lot of Bowman before he landed in the 88.
Bowman at least had RAB racing in the top 10 in 2013 in the Xfinity series.
Corey has done nothing since the K&N days.
Posted on 7/16/24 at 2:12 pm to MikeHoncho47
quote:Fair
I’d sell the charter if those were my only options.
quote:Ehhh...I put him in the replaceable category, I just think comparing him to drivers who have had consistent tier 1 or tier 2 rides in championship winning organizations is a disingenuous argument if that's your basis for why he doesn't deserve a seat.
Put your Lajoie boner away.
The Bowman comparison expounded more, funny you mention Bowman's pre-Cup Xfinity because Corey was top 10 in 20% of the races he ran in 2016 for JGL before moving up to Cup.
Posted on 7/16/24 at 2:17 pm to AwesomeSauce
Do you just have all kinds of excuses just waiting to be thrown out in Corey’s defense?
At some point you’re not an underdog anymore. You’re out of your league.
If Corey really was THAT good, someone would have offered him a ride better than what he’s driving. He is what he is. He’s a steering wheel holder. He won’t get much better than he currently has it.
Corey never ran a full season in the lower series. There’s not much to base off of. I don’t think he’d do much better than Ryan Preece has at Stewart-Haas.
At some point you’re not an underdog anymore. You’re out of your league.
If Corey really was THAT good, someone would have offered him a ride better than what he’s driving. He is what he is. He’s a steering wheel holder. He won’t get much better than he currently has it.
Corey never ran a full season in the lower series. There’s not much to base off of. I don’t think he’d do much better than Ryan Preece has at Stewart-Haas.
This post was edited on 7/16/24 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 7/16/24 at 2:37 pm to MikeHoncho47
quote:No, not at all. I just didn't pull the Bowman comparison out of thin air and have held that opinion based off a lot of similarities in their careers. Though I would give an edge to Bowman just because I think the dirt guys are better at finding something the asphalt guys don't know to look for. If Jr had held on for one more year and that spot was open when Reddick was ready I don't know that Bowman would have a win to his name at the cup level if he had ended up in a CGR ride or the like.
Do you just have all kinds of excuses just waiting to be thrown out in Corey’s defense?
In the end I have my opinions based off data and what I've seen and heard, just like everyone else in this thread. All in all I think we are just in here talking about the sport we enjoy and if discussing back markers is bringing up discussions of defunct race teams and old races as well as retired drivers then that's good discussion in my book.
Posted on 7/16/24 at 2:42 pm to AwesomeSauce
Changing topics with the last stretch of the season coming up who does everyone have as their final 4 favorites?
I have Larson, Elliot, Reddick, and Blaney right now just because they seem to be the most consistent once the new season started to settle in. Although with the round of 8 slate (Vegas, Miami, Martinsville) I could see Byron, Hamlin, or Truex grabbing a win and knocking one of those guys out.
I have Larson, Elliot, Reddick, and Blaney right now just because they seem to be the most consistent once the new season started to settle in. Although with the round of 8 slate (Vegas, Miami, Martinsville) I could see Byron, Hamlin, or Truex grabbing a win and knocking one of those guys out.
Posted on 7/16/24 at 3:19 pm to MikeHoncho47
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Corey really was THAT good
Can’t find anyone claiming this.
But I haven’t looked at all 3500 posts.
Posted on 7/16/24 at 3:29 pm to MikeHoncho47
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Put your Lajoie boner away. There are kids in here.
Posted on 7/16/24 at 3:30 pm to AwesomeSauce
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Corey is just one of those guys for me that are hard to judge. He reminds me a lot of Bowman before he landed in the 88.
Posted on 7/16/24 at 4:28 pm to Tigertown in ATL
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Can’t find anyone claiming this.
No one is claiming he’s good at all. Except that one guy that thinks Spire is holding him back.
Posted on 7/16/24 at 4:42 pm to MikeHoncho47
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Spire is holding him back
No one said that either. You just threw out drivers on championship teams with one or two better finishes than he has with GO FAS and Spire as proof he isn't good and therefore shouldn't be racing in Cup. Then kept throwing out more drivers as better which I had a retort for.
Posted on 7/16/24 at 6:28 pm to AwesomeSauce
Lmfao. You were literally making excuses for him and why his results are what they are. I’ll solve it for you.
He ain’t good. And if he begins to have results with Rodney I’ll eat my crow. But I don’t see it happening.
But I’m sure you’ll have some rebuttal lined up with whatever bullet points you feel like pointing out. Smfh
He ain’t good. And if he begins to have results with Rodney I’ll eat my crow. But I don’t see it happening.
But I’m sure you’ll have some rebuttal lined up with whatever bullet points you feel like pointing out. Smfh
Posted on 7/16/24 at 7:09 pm to MikeHoncho47
Are you trying to understand the points being made or do you just want to be right?
Teacher?
Teacher?
Posted on 7/16/24 at 7:17 pm to Tigertown in ATL
My opinion is he’s just not very good.
I understand the points. Doesn’t change my opinion.
I understand the points. Doesn’t change my opinion.
This post was edited on 7/16/24 at 7:18 pm
Posted on 7/16/24 at 7:39 pm to AwesomeSauce
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Spire is holding him back
HMS sure didn’t hold him back . He started 30th and finished 21st in the 9 subbing for Chase Elliott.
Posted on 7/16/24 at 8:32 pm to MikeHoncho47
I'm just refuting your examples for why he sucks. I already said it's your opinion and it's all good discussion but you just keep doubling down and then finding a new point that I refute based off of on track performance.
I stated I thought he was the third most talented driver in their stable and a candidate for being replaced. I can have that opinion and still be of the opinion that his career is very similar in results to Bowman pre HMS. Top tier equipment has put a lot of just ok drivers in victory lane.
Just lighten up man, it's really not that serious. Other posters and fans of the sport are entitled to opinions that differ from yours. If everyone had the same opinion then 90% of the trucks in the midway would have no reason to pull up on the weekends.
I stated I thought he was the third most talented driver in their stable and a candidate for being replaced. I can have that opinion and still be of the opinion that his career is very similar in results to Bowman pre HMS. Top tier equipment has put a lot of just ok drivers in victory lane.
Just lighten up man, it's really not that serious. Other posters and fans of the sport are entitled to opinions that differ from yours. If everyone had the same opinion then 90% of the trucks in the midway would have no reason to pull up on the weekends.
Posted on 7/16/24 at 9:54 pm to AwesomeSauce
Whether its car or driver or both - CLJ wrecked Busch and in this sport a backmarker can’t do that. The teams he’d want to drive for look at that stuff. Taking out a champion driver is not a good look. First hit fine, shite happens. 2nd bump took out a champ plus others. Not good no matter how its sliced.
Posted on 7/17/24 at 2:24 pm to AwesomeSauce
quote:
who does everyone have as their final 4 favorites?
Larson, Chase, Denny and Reddick
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