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re: 2023 LHSAA semifinals thread…

Posted on 12/3/23 at 12:29 am to
Posted by choupiquesushi
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Posted on 12/3/23 at 12:29 am to
He was a pretty good player for them.
Posted by Juan Betanzos
New Orleans
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Posted on 12/3/23 at 12:35 am to
That may be, but you cannot deny that CHS has now escaped 3 losses, due to favorable calls. I’d rather them win w/o that help
Posted by karmew32
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Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 12/3/23 at 12:52 am to
Zachary received more favorable calls in the 2021 WM games than Catholic did in all 3 games combined.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 12/3/23 at 7:22 am to
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Yap, that’s exactly what I thought I saw in the other video. Great angle. That’s a catch. I’d never expect a high school ref to get that right, to be fair


I definitely think it was a catch but I also get why the ref called it incomplete live seeing the ball moving around. I think it was a missed call but w/o assistance of replay that would’ve been a hard call to make.
Posted by Red Solo Cup
Memphis, TN
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 12/3/23 at 7:45 am to
Man, Zachary whipped your arse so bad 3 years ago you can’t quit talking about it.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
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Posted on 12/3/23 at 8:54 am to
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has now escaped 3 losses, due to favorable calls
every other team out there has escaped a loss, two or three due to some luck of the or a call going their way it's part of the game whining about it doesn't change the score of a game.
Posted by choupiquesushi
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Posted on 12/3/23 at 9:12 am to
Not replying specifically to this post but comments in general.. but...

here's the real thing having officiated games that have replay...
1. all of these videos that are shown from HS games (especially) NEVER show the same angle, elevation and perspective view of the covering official.

now for part 2 and 3 - going off seeing nearly every replay call from the LA hs games that have replay.

2. Had that call been complete and challenged none of the video presented would have been enough to overturn the call.

3. Had that call been incomplete and challenged none of the video presented would have been enough to overturn the call.


There are 160 ish plays in nearly every game now adays, players don't get 160 perfect, coaches don't and neither do officials and fans most certainly don't.

Those of you that think the LHSAA, LHSOA or officials ever want either team A or B to win are blindly and blissfully either ignorant or misguided. I have never been at a game or worked a game with another official that EVER cared or much less wanted either team to win.

Considering officials start working and preparing for games 2-3 weeks before spring games, then spend a week reviewing those. 2-3 hours a week.
then crank back up with weekly meetings in july(two midweek meetings and a saturday am field work meeting and much hudl watching). 4-6 hours a week.

Now once scrimmages start especially if one is a white hat it's probably 6-10 hours a week on meeting with association, crew meetings, hudl review, paper work and planning. Nobody sinister enough to "cheat" for a team is gonna go through all that - ONLY people that love the game.

FWIW ya'll have never thrown me or my crew under the bus on here except for the time ya'll had the rule for HS as it applied to that play so wrong even the coaches for both teams were texting me about the post .

If you think you can do better, by all means step up, but most people get over whelmed when they realize how many things they have to look at on each play and that they have to count players, read formations and keep sidelines clear EVERY play before the ball is even snapped.

Complain all you want but officiating is much better than it was when I first got involved with HS football - just think if the playoff games had 4 person crews like when I was a ball boy or player.
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 12/3/23 at 9:17 am to
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just think if the playoff games had 4 person crews like when I was a ball boy or player.


Question… if we can go back to that, why are we crying about an officials shortage?

I’d rather have that than Thursday night games
This post was edited on 12/3/23 at 9:28 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/3/23 at 9:19 am to
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That may be, but you cannot deny that CHS has now escaped 3 losses, due to favorable calls. I’d rather them win w/o that help
Catholic was up 21-14 at the moment. Saying that call “escaped a loss” is a little much

And if you want to do this, the game should have been 21-12 at the moment because the refs gave Rummel a 2 pt conversion where the guy caught the ball 2 yards out of bounds
Posted by DrEdgeLSU
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 12/3/23 at 9:24 am to
CHS escaped a loss by beating John Ehret 45-9?

Anyone watching that 4th quarter yesterday could see Catholic was the better team. The call in the end zone didn’t end the game or the drive. Rummel still had the ball after that play. The QB airmailed a pass on 4th.

Then on CHS’ next possession it was 3rd and 11 and Catholic converted before scoring again.

Rummel’s QB was 5-14 for 92 yards and a pick in the 4th quarter.

Sometimes bad calls happen. Better teams overcome them. Catholic had penalties called against them that took points off the board (Friday) and extended Rummel drives. Rummel was awarded a 2pt conversion on a catch made clearly out of bounds.

Catholic also converted two 4th downs on their first drive of the 4th quarter to take a lead. Rummel couldn’t keep up. This isn’t about the refs.
This post was edited on 12/3/23 at 9:26 am
Posted by choupiquesushi
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Posted on 12/3/23 at 9:57 am to
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Question… if we can go back to that, why are we crying about an officials shortage?

I’d rather have that than Thursday night games
3 head coaches from teams that were in semis would rather play on Thursday than on Friday.

With today's offenses and speed of the game ain't nobody rolling out there with 4 except in VERY rare circumstances and the things that 4 person crews can't possible cover see or even mechanically get in position for OMG - you think ya'll complain now
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
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Posted on 12/3/23 at 8:01 pm to
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Anyone watching that 4th quarter yesterday could see Catholic was the better team.


Catholic got a break.. Had that game finished Friday night, Rummel would've won. CHS's defense was worn down and had their backs against the wall..

Rummel had to drive back to Metairie then back to BR... The CHS players just had to go home..

Catholic should be thanking their lucky stars for that delay.
This post was edited on 12/3/23 at 8:11 pm
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
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Posted on 12/3/23 at 8:04 pm to
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Catholic was up 21-14 at the moment. Saying that call “escaped a loss” is a little much


That call deflated Rummel, had that been called complete and a TD, at 21-21, no telling what the outcome would've been.
This post was edited on 12/3/23 at 8:05 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/3/23 at 8:13 pm to
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That call deflated Rummel, had that been called complete and a TD, at 21-21, no telling what the outcome would've been.
If they got the other catch call right it would have been 21-19 Catholic
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
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Posted on 12/3/23 at 8:16 pm to
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If they got the other catch call right it would have been 21-19 Catholic


There's a 2 pt conversion in HS football right?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/3/23 at 8:17 pm to
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There's a 2 pt conversion in HS football right?
It would have been 21-12

TD makes it 21-18

Going for 2 wouldn’t have made any sense there, and even so that still makes it 21-20
This post was edited on 12/3/23 at 8:19 pm
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 12/3/23 at 8:21 pm to
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Rummel had to drive back to Metairie then back to BR... The CHS players just had to go home.
Do you even remotely know BR traffic?
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
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Posted on 12/3/23 at 8:23 pm to
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There's a 2 pt conversion in HS football right?
I remember the "super ants" missing a 2 point try back in my ball boy days and being eliminated. But I think their kicker got hurt in pregame jubilation.
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 12/3/23 at 8:29 pm to
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Do you even remotely know BR traffic?


On a Saturday night after 10?
Posted by jennyjones
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Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 12/3/23 at 8:43 pm to
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Zachary received more favorable calls in the 2021 WM games than Catholic did in all 3 games combined.


This post was edited on 12/4/23 at 12:12 am
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