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re: 2023 IndyCar Season - R17 Laguna Seca 9/10 2:30 pm ET (NBC)
Posted on 8/25/23 at 8:30 am to TouchedTheAxeIn82
Posted on 8/25/23 at 8:30 am to TouchedTheAxeIn82
We got an oval this weekend. All Palou needs to do is pretty much finish and he'll wrap up the championship.
This post was edited on 8/25/23 at 8:31 am
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Posted on 8/27/23 at 10:54 am to Tornado Alley
After a rainy Saturday, they were finally able to get a practice session in just before it got dark, and qualifying got pushed to this morning (right now).
Conor Daly replaced the fired Jack Harvey at RLL, and he's far ahead of the Carpenter team that he got fired from. And he's actually the fastest RLL car as well.
Conor Daly replaced the fired Jack Harvey at RLL, and he's far ahead of the Carpenter team that he got fired from. And he's actually the fastest RLL car as well.
Posted on 8/27/23 at 2:39 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
The race at Gateway is starting now!
Unfortunately six cars have 9-place grid penalties for an engine change beyond the regular allocation, including the pole sitter Scott McLaughlin! Also three of the Ganassi guys got grid penalties: Palou, Dixon, Sato.
Unfortunately six cars have 9-place grid penalties for an engine change beyond the regular allocation, including the pole sitter Scott McLaughlin! Also three of the Ganassi guys got grid penalties: Palou, Dixon, Sato.
This post was edited on 8/27/23 at 2:40 pm
Posted on 8/27/23 at 2:43 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
Newgarden is now on pole, with Palou far back, so he has a chance to close up the points gap with just two more races left after this one. It ain't over yet!
Posted on 8/27/23 at 4:28 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
Newgarden is in the wall !!!
Posted on 8/27/23 at 4:48 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
Dixon showing yet again why he's still the master. 
Posted on 8/27/23 at 5:13 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
Dixon is the fricking GOAT
Posted on 8/27/23 at 7:28 pm to SkiUtah420
Dixon could make a full tank of gas last a year the way he saves fuel. What if he won four straight to close the season and win the title?
What is it about this track that makes passing hard to come by? It’s longer than Iowa, but it felt like a parade out there for a while.
This has to be disappointing for Newgarden, of course. I was hoping Power or Kirkwood would give Dixon a run for his money at the end but they were on the wrong side of the strategy.
What is it about this track that makes passing hard to come by? It’s longer than Iowa, but it felt like a parade out there for a while.
This has to be disappointing for Newgarden, of course. I was hoping Power or Kirkwood would give Dixon a run for his money at the end but they were on the wrong side of the strategy.
Posted on 8/27/23 at 8:27 pm to Tornado Alley
i would rather see him win than palou
I think the issue with gateway is that its only 1 lane and no banking.
the short oval package produces too much dirty air making passing difficult
I think they should be able to use p2p on them but its moot since next year they will have the regenerative braking/ERS instead of p2p (bc of the hybrids) which should make the racing even better
Hopefully they make it a night race again too
I think the issue with gateway is that its only 1 lane and no banking.
the short oval package produces too much dirty air making passing difficult
I think they should be able to use p2p on them but its moot since next year they will have the regenerative braking/ERS instead of p2p (bc of the hybrids) which should make the racing even better
Hopefully they make it a night race again too
Posted on 8/28/23 at 12:50 pm to SkiUtah420
I liked the race. I wish there were more short ovals. I think that they will do more with the alternative tires on the short ovals for sure.
Push to pass will be going away with the new hybrid systems. Passing will be done while the lead car is harvesting and the trailing car has energy. Will be good on short ovals. I have no idea how it will work at Indy.
Push to pass will be going away with the new hybrid systems. Passing will be done while the lead car is harvesting and the trailing car has energy. Will be good on short ovals. I have no idea how it will work at Indy.
Posted on 8/28/23 at 1:18 pm to Tornado Alley
quote:
What is it about this track that makes passing hard to come by? It’s longer than Iowa, but it felt like a parade out there for a while.
When they run the race @ night [*at least it seems like] there’s significantly more passing. - They did try and rubber in the top groove but after the rain, I don’t think it did much for this race.
I’ve read rumors that Milwaukee will be returning next year and Gateway will move back to a Night race. That would help a bunch.
Posted on 8/28/23 at 1:18 pm to SkiUtah420
I wonder if the tires are an issue at ovals like this? What I mean is these tires wear faster and that leaves rubber bits all over the outer groove which is why you can’t pass. If they used less wearing/schredding tires perhaps that would help. Tires won’t fall off but can pass or go side by side more
This post was edited on 8/28/23 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 9/2/23 at 1:24 am to OU Guy
Race 15 Gateway
Official results and points
2023 Bommarito Automotive Group 500 - 260 laps
P01 Scott Dixon (#9 Ganassi / Honda)
P02 Pato O'Ward (#5 McLaren / Chevy)
P03 David Malukas (#18 Coyne / Honda)
P04 Alexander Rossi (#7 McLaren / Chevy) -1 lap
P05 Scott McLaughlin (#3 Penske / Chevy) -1 lap
P06 Colton Herta (#26 Andretti / Honda) -1 lap
P07 Alex Palou (#10 Ganassi / Honda) -1 lap
P08 Felix Rosenqvist (#6 McLaren / Chevy) -1 lap
P09 Will Power (#12 Penske / Chevy) -1 lap
P10 Marcus Ericsson (#8 Ganassi / Honda) -1 lap
P11 Rinus VeeKay (#21 Carpenter / Chevy) -1 lap
P12 Romain Grosjean (#28 Andretti / Honda) -1 lap
P13 Santino Ferrucci (#14 Foyt / Chevy) -1 lap
P14 Ryan Hunter-Reay (#20 Carpenter / Chevy) -1 lap
P15 Kyle Kirkwood (#27 Andretti / Honda) -1 lap
P16 Conor Daly (#30 Rahal Letterman Lanigan / Honda) -1 lap
P17 Christian Lundgaard (#45 Rahal Letterman Lanigan / Honda) -1 lap
P18 Linus Lundqvist (#60 Meyer Shank / Honda) -2 laps
P19 Devlin DeFrancesco (#29 Andretti / Honda) -2 laps
P20 Graham Rahal (#15 Rahal Letterman Lanigan / Honda) -2 laps
P21 Sting Ray Robb [R] (#51 Coyne / Honda) -2 laps
P22 Agustín Canapino [R] (#78 Juncos Hollinger / Chevy) -2 laps
P23 Hélio Castroneves (#06 Meyer Shank / Honda) -3 laps
P24 Ed Carpenter (#33 Carpenter / Chevy) -6 laps
P25 Josef Newgarden (#2 Penske / Chevy) 210 laps DNF Contact
P26 Takuma Sato (#11 Ganassi / Honda) 119 laps DNF Contact
P27 Callum Ilott (#77 Juncos Hollinger / Chevy) 58 laps DNF Contact
P28 Benjamin Pedersen [R] (#55 Foyt / Chevy) 0 laps DNF Contact
2023 Season Standings (after 15 races)
(+/- number of positions gained or lost since the previous race)
P01 Alex Palou (Ganassi / Honda) 565 pts (+0)
P02 Scott Dixon (Ganassi / Honda) 491 pts (+0)
P03 Josef Newgarden (Penske / Chevy) 440 pts (+0)
P04 Pato O'Ward (McLaren / Chevy) 429 pts (+1)
P05 Scott McLaughlin (Penske / Chevy) 426 pts (-1)
P06 Marcus Ericsson (Ganassi / Honda) 397 pts (+0)
P07 Will Power (Penske / Chevy) 388 pts (+0)
P08 Christian Lundgaard (Rahal Letterman Lanigan / Honda) 343 pts (+0)
P09 Alexander Rossi (McLaren / Chevy) 339 pts (+1)
P10 Colton Herta (Andretti / Honda) 331 pts (+1)
P11 Kyle Kirkwood (Andretti / Honda) 327 pts (-2)
P12 Romain Grosjean (Andretti / Honda) 271 pts (+0)
P13 Felix Rosenqvist (McLaren / Chevy) 270 pts (+0)
P14 Graham Rahal (Rahal Letterman Lanigan / Honda) 251 pts (+0)
P15 Rinus VeeKay (Carpenter / Chevy) 237 pts (+0)
P16 David Malukas (Coyne / Honda) 230 pts (+1)
P17 Callum Ilott (Juncos Hollinger / Chevy) 221 pts (-1)
P18 Santino Ferrucci (Foyt / Chevy) 187 pts (+2)
P19 Hélio Castroneves (Meyer Shank / Honda) 184 pts (+0)
P20 Marcus Armstrong [R] (Ganassi / Honda) 179 pts (-2)
P21 Agustín Canapino [R] (Juncos Hollinger / Chevy) 159 pts (+0)
P22 Devlin DeFrancesco (Andretti / Honda) 156 pts (+1)
P23 Jack Harvey (Rahal Letterman Lanigan / Honda) 146 pts (-1)
P24 Conor Daly (Carpenter/Chevy & Meyer Shank/Honda) 134 pts (+0)
P25 Sting Ray Robb [R] (Coyne / Honda) 122 pts (+0)
P26 Benjamin Pedersen [R] (Foyt / Chevy) 107 pts (+0)
P27 Ryan Hunter-Reay (D&R + Carpenter / Chevy) 102 pts (+1)
P28 Simon Pagenaud (Meyer Shank / Honda) 88 pts (-1)
P29 Takuma Sato (Ganassi / Honda) 70 pts (+0)
P30 Ed Carpenter (Carpenter / Chevy) 46 pts (+0)
P31 Linus Lundqvist (Meyer Shank / Honda) 35 pts (+0)
P32 Tony Kanaan (McLaren / Chevy) 18 pts (+0)
P33 Marco Andretti (Andretti / Honda) 13 pts (+0)
P34 Katherine Legge (Rahal Letterman Lanigan / Honda) 5 pts
P35 RC Enerson (Abel Motorsports / Chevy) 5 pts
P36 Tom Blomqvist (Meyer Shank / Honda) 5 pts
Official results and points
2023 Bommarito Automotive Group 500 - 260 laps
P01 Scott Dixon (#9 Ganassi / Honda)
P02 Pato O'Ward (#5 McLaren / Chevy)
P03 David Malukas (#18 Coyne / Honda)
P04 Alexander Rossi (#7 McLaren / Chevy) -1 lap
P05 Scott McLaughlin (#3 Penske / Chevy) -1 lap
P06 Colton Herta (#26 Andretti / Honda) -1 lap
P07 Alex Palou (#10 Ganassi / Honda) -1 lap
P08 Felix Rosenqvist (#6 McLaren / Chevy) -1 lap
P09 Will Power (#12 Penske / Chevy) -1 lap
P10 Marcus Ericsson (#8 Ganassi / Honda) -1 lap
P11 Rinus VeeKay (#21 Carpenter / Chevy) -1 lap
P12 Romain Grosjean (#28 Andretti / Honda) -1 lap
P13 Santino Ferrucci (#14 Foyt / Chevy) -1 lap
P14 Ryan Hunter-Reay (#20 Carpenter / Chevy) -1 lap
P15 Kyle Kirkwood (#27 Andretti / Honda) -1 lap
P16 Conor Daly (#30 Rahal Letterman Lanigan / Honda) -1 lap
P17 Christian Lundgaard (#45 Rahal Letterman Lanigan / Honda) -1 lap
P18 Linus Lundqvist (#60 Meyer Shank / Honda) -2 laps
P19 Devlin DeFrancesco (#29 Andretti / Honda) -2 laps
P20 Graham Rahal (#15 Rahal Letterman Lanigan / Honda) -2 laps
P21 Sting Ray Robb [R] (#51 Coyne / Honda) -2 laps
P22 Agustín Canapino [R] (#78 Juncos Hollinger / Chevy) -2 laps
P23 Hélio Castroneves (#06 Meyer Shank / Honda) -3 laps
P24 Ed Carpenter (#33 Carpenter / Chevy) -6 laps
P25 Josef Newgarden (#2 Penske / Chevy) 210 laps DNF Contact
P26 Takuma Sato (#11 Ganassi / Honda) 119 laps DNF Contact
P27 Callum Ilott (#77 Juncos Hollinger / Chevy) 58 laps DNF Contact
P28 Benjamin Pedersen [R] (#55 Foyt / Chevy) 0 laps DNF Contact
2023 Season Standings (after 15 races)
(+/- number of positions gained or lost since the previous race)
P01 Alex Palou (Ganassi / Honda) 565 pts (+0)
P02 Scott Dixon (Ganassi / Honda) 491 pts (+0)
P03 Josef Newgarden (Penske / Chevy) 440 pts (+0)
P04 Pato O'Ward (McLaren / Chevy) 429 pts (+1)
P05 Scott McLaughlin (Penske / Chevy) 426 pts (-1)
P06 Marcus Ericsson (Ganassi / Honda) 397 pts (+0)
P07 Will Power (Penske / Chevy) 388 pts (+0)
P08 Christian Lundgaard (Rahal Letterman Lanigan / Honda) 343 pts (+0)
P09 Alexander Rossi (McLaren / Chevy) 339 pts (+1)
P10 Colton Herta (Andretti / Honda) 331 pts (+1)
P11 Kyle Kirkwood (Andretti / Honda) 327 pts (-2)
P12 Romain Grosjean (Andretti / Honda) 271 pts (+0)
P13 Felix Rosenqvist (McLaren / Chevy) 270 pts (+0)
P14 Graham Rahal (Rahal Letterman Lanigan / Honda) 251 pts (+0)
P15 Rinus VeeKay (Carpenter / Chevy) 237 pts (+0)
P16 David Malukas (Coyne / Honda) 230 pts (+1)
P17 Callum Ilott (Juncos Hollinger / Chevy) 221 pts (-1)
P18 Santino Ferrucci (Foyt / Chevy) 187 pts (+2)
P19 Hélio Castroneves (Meyer Shank / Honda) 184 pts (+0)
P20 Marcus Armstrong [R] (Ganassi / Honda) 179 pts (-2)
P21 Agustín Canapino [R] (Juncos Hollinger / Chevy) 159 pts (+0)
P22 Devlin DeFrancesco (Andretti / Honda) 156 pts (+1)
P23 Jack Harvey (Rahal Letterman Lanigan / Honda) 146 pts (-1)
P24 Conor Daly (Carpenter/Chevy & Meyer Shank/Honda) 134 pts (+0)
P25 Sting Ray Robb [R] (Coyne / Honda) 122 pts (+0)
P26 Benjamin Pedersen [R] (Foyt / Chevy) 107 pts (+0)
P27 Ryan Hunter-Reay (D&R + Carpenter / Chevy) 102 pts (+1)
P28 Simon Pagenaud (Meyer Shank / Honda) 88 pts (-1)
P29 Takuma Sato (Ganassi / Honda) 70 pts (+0)
P30 Ed Carpenter (Carpenter / Chevy) 46 pts (+0)
P31 Linus Lundqvist (Meyer Shank / Honda) 35 pts (+0)
P32 Tony Kanaan (McLaren / Chevy) 18 pts (+0)
P33 Marco Andretti (Andretti / Honda) 13 pts (+0)
P34 Katherine Legge (Rahal Letterman Lanigan / Honda) 5 pts
P35 RC Enerson (Abel Motorsports / Chevy) 5 pts
P36 Tom Blomqvist (Meyer Shank / Honda) 5 pts
Posted on 9/2/23 at 1:26 am to TouchedTheAxeIn82
With just two race left and 104 points up for grabs...
Alex Palou has 565 points. Scott Dixon trails Palou by 74 points (491 points) and is the only driver who still has a chance to beat Palou. Dixon's jaw-dropping recent performances, winning the last two races, is the only reason Palou hasn't already wrapped up the championship. Dixon must beat Palou by 23 points in Portland to take the fight to Laguna Seca. It's possible, but Palou is likely to be crowned the champion at the end of the Portland race.
Latest news ahead of Portland
Marcus Ericsson switches from Ganassi to Andretti for 2024. Ericsson joins Colton Herta and Kyle Kirkwood. Grosjean and DeFrancesco's seats are up in the air with Ericsson filling one of them.
Chip Ganassi has signed Linus Lundqvist to a multi-year deal. Lundqvist is 2022 Indy Lights champion and has made three IndyCar starts this year for Meyer Shank Racing in place of the injured Simon Pagenaud. Pagenaud competed in the first eight races this year until a brutal crash during Mid-Ohio practice left him with lingering concussion symptoms.
Tom Blomqvist was previously announced as replacement for Hélio Castroneves for a full-time seat in 2024 at Meyer Shank Racing. He is also now named as Simon Pagenaud's replacement for Portland and Laguna Seca to close out the year.
Former F2 driver Juri Vips will drive the #30 Rahal Letterman Lanigan entry in place of the fired Jack Harvey at Portland and Laguna Seca. Vips has tested twice for RLL at Sebring and Barber, and is now getting a two-race audition for a full time seat next year. Vips was dropped by Red Bull last year following an incident where he uttered a racial slur during an online gaming session, paving the way for Liam Lawson to get the Red Bull reserve driver role.
This post was edited on 9/2/23 at 1:28 am
Posted on 9/3/23 at 2:25 am to OU Guy
another pole for Graham Rahal
also big Yuri Vips guy
also big Yuri Vips guy
Posted on 9/3/23 at 10:09 am to SkiUtah420
A few hot takes for Portland
Palou DNFs
Lil Dave/ Mclaughlin beef escalates
Dixon top 3
Rahal doesnt win but podiums
Palou DNFs
Lil Dave/ Mclaughlin beef escalates
Dixon top 3
Rahal doesnt win but podiums
Posted on 9/3/23 at 2:34 pm to SkiUtah420
quote:
Palou DNFs
Wishful thinking
, but it's the only way to keep the fight going to Laguna Seca. Grosjean's race already ruined.
Power overcooks a corner, spins off and stalls. It was a nice clean start, with just Grosjean getting damage in the early laps, but FCY already.
This post was edited on 9/3/23 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 9/3/23 at 3:26 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
Pretty entertaining race
Posted on 9/3/23 at 4:05 pm to jefforize
I remember the days of the GI Joe 200 at Portland
Posted on 9/3/23 at 4:09 pm to FightinTigersDammit
I think Ericsson naturally drifted out a little and Rossi was not careful enough. Of course Rossi blames Ericsson.
This post was edited on 9/3/23 at 4:10 pm
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