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re: 2023 IndyCar Season - R17 Laguna Seca 9/10 2:30 pm ET (NBC)
Posted on 8/6/23 at 12:55 pm to shel311
Posted on 8/6/23 at 12:55 pm to shel311
The lack of yellows is messing with people's strategies. 
Some need to save fuel, so as the tires wear out I hope to see a lot of passing at the end of the race.
Edit: Oh they are saying that if there are no more yellows, Palou isn't going to make it and will need a splash and dash. That would be awesome, Newgarden will close up on him in the championship.
Some need to save fuel, so as the tires wear out I hope to see a lot of passing at the end of the race. Edit: Oh they are saying that if there are no more yellows, Palou isn't going to make it and will need a splash and dash. That would be awesome, Newgarden will close up on him in the championship.
This post was edited on 8/6/23 at 12:58 pm
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Posted on 8/6/23 at 1:11 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
Darn, Palou got the yellow he needed!
Too bad for Lundqvist. Great debut until the crash.
Too bad for Lundqvist. Great debut until the crash.
Posted on 8/6/23 at 1:21 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
Darn, yellows breed yellows. 
At least they threw the red flag immediately so we get a several-lap shootout to the end.
At least they threw the red flag immediately so we get a several-lap shootout to the end.
Posted on 8/6/23 at 1:23 pm to Rig
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I’ll be in Nashville this weekend. Excited for it!
Let us know how it went and where you watched the race from!
And post pics!
Posted on 8/6/23 at 1:39 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
Nice win for Kirkwood! 
The Long Beach winner wins his second race on another tough street course.
Palou finished P3, just ahead of Newgarden so he extends his championship lead a little with four races to go.
The Long Beach winner wins his second race on another tough street course.
Palou finished P3, just ahead of Newgarden so he extends his championship lead a little with four races to go.
This post was edited on 8/6/23 at 1:44 pm
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Posted on 8/6/23 at 2:26 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
Why is Herta out of just about every race despite starting up front? Bad strategy? Bad driving? I don’t get it.
Posted on 8/6/23 at 2:43 pm to sorantable
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Why is Herta out of just about every race despite starting up front? Bad strategy? Bad driving? I don’t get it.
It's been a mix of things. In the last couple of years Colton has thrown away at least two races by crashing on his own while in P1 or P2. And people are saying that since his father Bryan moved over to be Kirkwood's strategist, Colton's strategist has made a few mistakes, while Bryan has managed Kirkwood to two wins this year.
With all of the hype around Herta and/or Pato going to F1, it's been Palou that has proven that he's the best guy to move over. Pato and Colton have the speed but are not complete drivers yet.
Posted on 8/7/23 at 7:49 am to TouchedTheAxeIn82
That was an excellent race! It was awesome to see the drivers avoid the typical crashes for most of the race. They seem to have figured out the circuit, just in time for it to change.
Lundqvist had a wonderful debut. He clearly has a bright future behind the wheel. I'm not sure who he'll be racing for next year though. Isn't he signed on with Andretti?
I was hoping Herta could podium, at a minimum. He had a poor race, going into the wall twice. The first time, he must've lost seven or eight spots in a blink of an eye simply because he got loose in the corner coming off the bridge.
I was hoping to see Palou have to splash and dash and Newgarden potentially overtake him. Newgarden didn't have the pace on Palou the whole race yesterday.
Kirkwood is impressive on the street circuits. But Palou has to be the favorite to win this weekend at the Indy road course.
Lundqvist had a wonderful debut. He clearly has a bright future behind the wheel. I'm not sure who he'll be racing for next year though. Isn't he signed on with Andretti?
I was hoping Herta could podium, at a minimum. He had a poor race, going into the wall twice. The first time, he must've lost seven or eight spots in a blink of an eye simply because he got loose in the corner coming off the bridge.
I was hoping to see Palou have to splash and dash and Newgarden potentially overtake him. Newgarden didn't have the pace on Palou the whole race yesterday.
Kirkwood is impressive on the street circuits. But Palou has to be the favorite to win this weekend at the Indy road course.
Posted on 8/7/23 at 8:13 am to Tornado Alley
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That was an excellent race! It was awesome to see the drivers avoid the typical crashes for most of the race. They seem to have figured out the circuit, just in time for it to change.
The pit lane will be drastically different, but the track will almost be a mirror of the current track, just on the other side of the river.
It’ll be interesting to see how they adapt to the new layout. The track overall will be able to be wider @ the hard breaking turns, but going down 1st street will be interesting with the big elevation changes going downhill, and then the run up Broadway will be an uphill turn to 4th street, but at least those two places will be pretty wide.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 10:08 pm to Tornado Alley
Good for Rahal! He was the fastest all day and deserved pole. A big day for the PAPAYA ORANGE POSSE too. Should be a good race tomorrow. Surprised to see Palou, Newgarden, Herta, and Kirkwood struggle so much. I reckon they’ll still do well in the race, especially Palou.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 11:27 pm to Tornado Alley
i bet Rossi, felix and pato will do everything they can to frick with Palou’s race tomorrow
I also think he will lose the championship to Newgarden bc of this contract drama
last year he had shitty results in the latter half of the season until his contract dispute with Ganassi was resolved right before Laguna Seca
I also think he will lose the championship to Newgarden bc of this contract drama
last year he had shitty results in the latter half of the season until his contract dispute with Ganassi was resolved right before Laguna Seca
Posted on 8/11/23 at 11:30 pm to sorantable
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Why is Herta out of just about every race despite starting up front? Bad strategy? Bad driving? I don’t get it.
Herta is really fast but has mediocre race craft.
Indycar has gotten so competitive that in order to win you have to execute at an extremely high level.
It is probably the hardest series from a pure competition perspective. Everyone in the top 15 is so dialed in
Herta seems to have all the tools but no toolbox
This post was edited on 8/11/23 at 11:31 pm
Posted on 8/12/23 at 3:55 am to SkiUtah420
Sorry, some housekeeping before we move on to the Indy Road Course race on Saturday.
Race 13 Nashville
Official results and points
2023 Big Machine Music City Grand Prix - 80 laps
P01 Kyle Kirkwood (#27 Andretti / Honda)
P02 Scott McLaughlin (#3 Penske / Chevy)
P03 Alex Palou (#10 Ganassi / Honda)
P04 Josef Newgarden (#2 Penske / Chevy)
P05 Scott Dixon (#9 Ganassi / Honda)
P06 Romain Grosjean (#28 Andretti / Honda)
P07 Marcus Ericsson (#8 Ganassi / Honda)
P08 Pato O'Ward (#5 McLaren / Chevy)
P09 Christian Lundgaard (#45 Rahal Letterman Lanigan / Honda)
P10 Will Power (#12 Penske / Chevy)
P11 Hélio Castroneves (#06 Meyer Shank / Honda)
P12 Callum Ilott (#77 Juncos Hollinger / Chevy)
P13 Marcus Armstrong [R] (#11 Ganassi / Honda)
P14 Rinus VeeKay (#21 Carpenter / Chevy)
P15 Graham Rahal (#15 Rahal Letterman Lanigan / Honda)
P16 Ryan Hunter-Reay (#20 Carpenter / Chevy)
P17 Sting Ray Robb [R] (#51 Coyne / Honda)
P18 Santino Ferrucci (#14 Foyt / Chevy)
P19 Alexander Rossi (#7 McLaren / Chevy) -2 laps
P20 Agustín Canapino [R] (#78 Juncos Hollinger / Chevy) 77 laps DNF Off Course
P21 Colton Herta (#26 Andretti / Honda) 76 laps DNF Mechanical
P22 Felix Rosenqvist (#6 McLaren / Chevy) 73 laps DNF Contact
P23 Benjamin Pedersen [R] (#55 Foyt / Chevy) 73 laps DNF Contact
P24 Jack Harvey (#30 Rahal Letterman Lanigan / Honda) 71 laps DNF Contact
P25 Linus Lundqvist (#60 Meyer Shank / Honda) 69 laps DNF Contact
P26 Devlin DeFrancesco (#29 Andretti / Honda) 65 laps DNF Contact
P27 David Malukas (#18 Coyne / Honda) 11 laps DNF Mechanical
2023 Season Standings (after 13 races)
(+/- number of positions gained or lost since the previous race)
P01 Alex Palou (Ganassi / Honda) 513 pts (+0)
P02 Josef Newgarden (Penske / Chevy) 429 pts (+0)
P03 Scott Dixon (Ganassi / Honda) 387 pts (+0)
P04 Scott McLaughlin (Penske / Chevy) 371 pts (+2)
P05 Marcus Ericsson (Ganassi / Honda) 357 pts (-1)
P06 Pato O'Ward (McLaren / Chevy) 353 pts (-1)
P07 Will Power (Penske / Chevy) 337 pts (+0)
P08 Christian Lundgaard (Rahal Letterman Lanigan / Honda) 297 pts (+0)
P09 Kyle Kirkwood (Andretti / Honda) 290 pts (+2)
P10 Colton Herta (Andretti / Honda) 285 pts (-1)
P11 Alexander Rossi (McLaren / Chevy) 276 pts (-1)
P12 Felix Rosenqvist (McLaren / Chevy) 241 pts (+0)
P13 Romain Grosjean (Andretti / Honda) 241 pts (+0)
P14 Callum Ilott (Juncos Hollinger / Chevy) 203 pts (+0)
P15 Rinus VeeKay (Carpenter / Chevy) 199 pts (+0)
P16 Graham Rahal (Rahal Letterman Lanigan / Honda) 197 pts (+0)
P17 David Malukas (Coyne / Honda) 181 pts (+0)
P18 Marcus Armstrong [R] (Ganassi / Honda) 173 pts (+0)
P19 Santino Ferrucci (Foyt / Chevy) 163 pts (+0)
P20 Hélio Castroneves (Meyer Shank / Honda) 162 pts (+0)
P21 Agustín Canapino [R] (Juncos Hollinger / Chevy) 142 pts (+0)
P22 Devlin DeFrancesco (Andretti / Honda) 133 pts (+0)
P23 Jack Harvey (Rahal Letterman Lanigan / Honda) 130 pts (+0)
P24 Conor Daly (Carpenter/Chevy & Meyer Shank/Honda) 120 pts (+0)
P25 Sting Ray Robb [R] (Coyne / Honda) 105 pts (+0)
P26 Benjamin Pedersen [R] (Foyt / Chevy) 97 pts (+0)
P27 Simon Pagenaud (Meyer Shank / Honda) 88 pts (+0)
P28 Ryan Hunter-Reay (D&R + Carpenter / Chevy) 76 pts (+1)
P29 Takuma Sato (Ganassi / Honda) 65 pts (-1)
P30 Ed Carpenter (Carpenter / Chevy) 40 pts (+0)
P31 Tony Kanaan (McLaren / Chevy) 18 pts
P32 Marco Andretti (Andretti / Honda) 13 pts
P33 Katherine Legge (Rahal Letterman Lanigan / Honda) 5 pts
P34 RC Enerson (Abel Motorsports / Chevy) 5 pts
P35 Tom Blomqvist (Meyer Shank / Honda) 5 pts
P36 Linus Lundqvist (Meyer Shank / Honda) 5 pts
Posted on 8/12/23 at 4:12 am to TouchedTheAxeIn82
Linus Lundqvist will substitute for Simon Pagenaud this weekend for the second race in a row.
Pagenaud released a video about his continued recovery from his Mid-Ohio crash:
https://twitter.com/simonpagenaud/status/1688913443833905155
It was announced that Meyer Shank IMSA driver Tom Blomqvist was signed to be a full-time Meyer Shank IndyCar driver next year, replacing Hélio Castroneves, who will do an Indy 500-only program, and also becomes a part of the team's ownership group.
the-race.com/indycar/castroneves-drops-to-indy-500-only-blomqvist-gets-full-time-shot/
Blomqvist drove for Meyer Shank at the Toronto IndyCar race, in place of Pagenaud, but he was taken out on the first lap. So he has still not completed a full race lap in IndyCar, yet he got signed for next year nonetheless.
Posted on 8/12/23 at 4:25 am to TouchedTheAxeIn82
Zak Brown claims that Alex Palou "will not honor a deal" to join McLaren next year. His statement is a little dodgy since Ganassi's contract with Palou forbids him from negotiating with other teams before September 1.
www.nbcsports.com/motor-sports/news/arrow-mclaren-says-alex-palou-wont-honor-deal-to-join-indycar-team-2024-season-chip-ganassi-zak-brown
As I mentioned earlier in this thread (I think), if Palou doesn't get an F1 seat for next year, he should stick with Ganassi in IndyCar for obvious winning reasons. McLaren appears to be satisfied with their current F1 driver lineup, so Palou shouldn't sign with them for the promise of a future F1 seat.
Posted on 8/12/23 at 4:50 am to TouchedTheAxeIn82
IMS Road Course Starting Grid
P01 Graham Rahal (#15 Rahal Letterman Lanigan / Honda)
P02 Christian Lundgaard (#45 Rahal Letterman Lanigan / Honda) - Season P08
P03 Alexander Rossi (#7 McLaren / Chevy) - Season P11
P04 Pato O'Ward (#5 McLaren / Chevy) - Season P06
P05 Devlin DeFrancesco (#29 Andretti / Honda)
P06 Romain Grosjean (#28 Andretti / Honda) - Season P13
P07 Marcus Armstrong [R] (#11 Ganassi / Honda)
P08 Alex Palou (#10 Ganassi / Honda) - Season P01
P09 Felix Rosenqvist (#6 McLaren / Chevy) - Season P12
P10 Scott McLaughlin (#3 Penske / Chevy) - Season P04
P11 Colton Herta (#26 Andretti / Honda) - Season P10
P12 Linus Lundqvist (#60 Meyer Shank / Honda)
P13 Kyle Kirkwood (#27 Andretti / Honda) - Season P09
P14 Jack Harvey** (#30 Rahal Letterman Lanigan / Honda)
P15 Scott Dixon (#9 Ganassi / Honda) - Season P03
P16 Will Power (#12 Penske / Chevy) - Season P07
P17 Marcus Ericsson (#8 Ganassi / Honda) - Season P05
P18 Hélio Castroneves** (#06 Meyer Shank / Honda)
P19 Rinus VeeKay (#21 Carpenter / Chevy)
P20 Santino Ferrucci (#14 Foyt / Chevy)
P21 Ryan Hunter-Reay (#20 Carpenter / Chevy)
P22 Agustín Canapino [R] (#78 Juncos Hollinger / Chevy)
P23 Sting Ray Robb [R] (#51 Coyne / Honda)
P24 Callum Ilott (#77 Juncos Hollinger / Chevy) - Season P14
P25 Josef Newgarden** (#2 Penske / Chevy) - Season P02
P26 Benjamin Pedersen [R] (#55 Foyt / Chevy)
P27 David Malukas** (#18 Coyne / Honda)
** Harvey, Castroneves, Newgarden, and Malukas were given six-spot grid penalties for unapproved engine changes.
Graham hasn't had a pole position since 2017.
Team Rahal is on fire!
This post was edited on 8/12/23 at 10:15 am
Posted on 8/12/23 at 6:07 am to TouchedTheAxeIn82
I’d like to see a RLL car get a win in ol’ Dave’s home state.
Posted on 8/12/23 at 8:46 am to Tornado Alley
oh wow newgarden starting even farther back- hit with an eng change grid penalty
Posted on 8/12/23 at 9:36 am to SkiUtah420
Aww geeze. Unless the PAPAYA POWER POSSE harass Palou, it’s over for the championship race.
Posted on 8/12/23 at 10:26 am to Tornado Alley
I updated my post above with the revised starting grid.
I bolded the top 3 guys in the championship. Yeah it looks like Palou is just going to extend his lead unless a storm comes in and messes with the race.
I also marked the position of the guys in the top half of the season standings. Guys like Lundgaard, Rossi, Pato, and Grosjean have a good chance to bolster their standings as we get close to the end of the season.
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