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Posted on 3/19/23 at 1:51 pm to
Posted by 1999
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Posted on 3/19/23 at 1:51 pm to
Ugh, and George of all people gets the podium.

This is a minor speed bump for max. He will still win the drivers going away.
Posted by Fus0623
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Posted on 3/19/23 at 1:52 pm to
A 10 second penalty? Are you kidding me
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 3/19/23 at 1:52 pm to
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A 10 second penalty? Are you kidding me


Consistent with Ocon last week
Posted by TouchedTheAxeIn82
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Posted on 3/19/23 at 1:54 pm to
What's the penalty for? I missed it.
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 3/19/23 at 1:55 pm to
They rear jackman touched the car before 5 seconds was served.
Posted by pweezy
Member since Oct 2018
476 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 2:01 pm to
Penalty is a bummer but no doubt the jack man was too quick. Wish they could have decided this during the race though.
Posted by TouchedTheAxeIn82
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Posted on 3/19/23 at 2:02 pm to
Sounds so ticky-tacky. As long as the car wasn't lifted, 10 seconds sound so harsh.
Posted by HubbaBubba
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Member since Oct 2010
51717 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 2:03 pm to
This will only make AF drive harder and more purposeful and force Aston Martin to fix their shite.

Honestly, if in 2018 Horner hadn't screwed up and hired Perez, instead of hiring an available Alonzo, just to protect the fragile ego of Max, it would have been amazing fun to see the two Red Bulls fiercely competing against each other for points. Instead, Max is treated "special" and Perez's success is predicated on positioning Max to win.

I wait for the day (hopefully, this season), where Alonzo wins a few podiums over Max and Racey Spice fumes when Alonzo throws up this Horner quote from 2018 in an interview:

quote:

"I'm not sure it would be the healthiest thing for the team for Fernando to join the team. So I think our preference is to continue to invest in youth than take a driver who is towards the end of his career."

This post was edited on 3/19/23 at 2:05 pm
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 3/19/23 at 2:04 pm to
It is. I hate the penalties that are given and no discernable advantage was gained. Guess it is the give an inch, take a mile theory.

Merc #2 in WCC with a self admitted shixbox.
This post was edited on 3/19/23 at 2:06 pm
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 2:11 pm to
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Penalty is a bummer but no doubt the jack man was too quick. Wish they could have decided this during the race though.


They need to inform the team during the race so they have an opportunity to overcome it.

bullshite to sit on it.

Wouldn't be surprised if the FIA didn't catch it and it was pointed out by Toto after the race.
Posted by Rainydave
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2018
278 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 2:16 pm to
30+ minutes after the race and ESPN still hasn’t gotten around to their simulcast post-race show?

Good thing I speak Spanish, their coverage is actually showing up…what the frick…
Posted by TexasTiger33
United States of America
Member since Feb 2022
16128 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 2:19 pm to
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This is childs play re team drama. Senna / Prost was real drama.


This guy gets it...
Posted by TouchedTheAxeIn82
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 3/19/23 at 2:24 pm to
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They need to inform the team during the race so they have an opportunity to overcome it.

bullshite to sit on it.

Wouldn't be surprised if the FIA didn't catch it and it was pointed out by Toto after the race.

100% agree. The stewards should do their investigation and make their decision within (something like) 20 minutes of an incident, and the teams should have no more than 10-15 minutes to report something that the stewards might have missed. Post-race penalties leave a bad taste in the mouth, this would be a way to mitigate them somewhat.
Posted by bikerack
NH
Member since Sep 2011
2550 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 2:35 pm to
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100% agree. The stewards should do their investigation and make their decision within (something like) 20 minutes of an incident, and the teams should have no more than 10-15 minutes to report something that the stewards might have missed. Post-race penalties leave a bad taste in the mouth, this would be a way to mitigate them somewhat.


I agree to a point - I was watching the race on delay but saw the jack touch the car in real-time. Was surprised no one mentioned anything about it. There was also a mechanic that appeared to touch the halo during the 5 second penalty. The team should have noticed both potential infractions and told ALO to book it to cover the possible 10 secs.
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 3/19/23 at 2:37 pm to
Just don't touch the car.

Alonso has a right to bitch, but he screwed up the start and his team screwed up the stop. There aren't unlimited stewards to watch everyone's actions.
Posted by tylerlsu2008
Monaco
Member since Jul 2015
1527 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 3:03 pm to
There should be stewards directly supervising anytime a penalty is being served.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78321 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 3:12 pm to
There are, but doesn't mean they can see everything
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
84979 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 3:31 pm to
Sucks for Alonso, but out of today it’s confirmed the RBs are rocket ships in a field of boats… absolutely incredible what they’ve done with that car
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78321 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 3:33 pm to
Yep, waiting to see what the FIA/F1 does to reign them in. Going to find some advantage and change it on them. Toto has mentioned ride height, so I am looking that area.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 3:33 pm to
quote:

Gene Haas seems to be in F1 just to sell machine tools.


He's pretty much said as much.

Saying that, the smallest team in F1, by a lot, scored points today.

Now that there is a budget cap they may be able to improve overall operations to a point. The likelihood of them ever having their own wind tunnel is low, but I can see them building a bit more. Getting their own simulator would be a big step. They currently use Ferrari's but obviously can't be in there whenever they want.

Steiner, and others, has said that even with the cap it will take a number of years for the smaller teams to erode the infrastructure advantage the big three have.
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