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re: 2023 Formula 1 season Thread
Posted on 3/19/23 at 4:52 pm to BuckyCheese
Posted on 3/19/23 at 4:52 pm to BuckyCheese
Haas>McLaren
Posted on 3/19/23 at 4:52 pm to BuckyCheese
Alonso P3, penalty overturned....
Oh the drama
Oh the drama
Posted on 3/19/23 at 4:54 pm to fightin tigers
quote:
Alonso P3, penalty overturned....
I was actually wondering if this would happen, just to bring more drama into it
Posted on 3/19/23 at 4:57 pm to fightin tigers
quote:
Oh the drama
Where are you seeing it?
I only see Alonso tweeting “100th podium” 27 min ago
Posted on 3/19/23 at 4:58 pm to Lsut81
Just twitter talking heads for now.
reputable f1 talking head
reputable f1 talking head
This post was edited on 3/19/23 at 5:01 pm
Posted on 3/19/23 at 5:00 pm to Cosmo
quote:
Toto mad

This post was edited on 3/19/23 at 5:03 pm
Posted on 3/19/23 at 5:01 pm to fightin tigers
quote:
Just twitter talking heads for now.
Like I said, Alonso tweeted 27 min ago about his 100th podium… not like it was a tweet from 3hrs ago immediately after race. So has to be some legitimacy
Posted on 3/19/23 at 5:06 pm to fightin tigers
Glad Georgie Boy doesn't get a cheap podium
Posted on 3/19/23 at 5:13 pm to Lsut81
It’s official, Alonso keeps 3rd. F1 really needs to get this process fixed. It’s a joke.
Posted on 3/19/23 at 5:13 pm to Lsut81
quote:
Where are you seeing it?
Here is the text from the FIA decision document...
quote:
The Stewards received a letter dated 19th March 2023 from Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula
One Team with a Petition for Review pursuant to Article 14.1.1 of the International Sporting Code
(ISC) of this Stewards panel’s decision to impose a 10-second penalty to Car 14 for failing to serve
the penalty properly.
In support of the Petition for Review, the Stewards were shown minutes of the latest SAC meeting
and video evidence of 7 different instances where cars were touched by the jack while serving a
similar penalty to the one imposed on Car 14 without being penalized.
The clear submission by the Team was that the alleged representation of an agreement between the
FIA and the teams that touching the car in any way, including with a jack, would constitute “working”
on the car for the purposes of Article 54.4 (c) of the Sporting Regulations, was incorrect and therefore
the basis of the Steward’s decision was wrong.
In the light of the Petition, the Stewards had to decide if there was a “significant and relevant new
element [that was] discovered which was unavailable to the parties seeking the review at the time of
the decision concerned”.
If there was such an element(s) then the Stewards would need to consider whether the decision
needed to be modified in any way.
Having reviewed the video evidence presented and having heard from the Team representative of
Aston Martin and the relevant members from the FIA, the Stewards determined that there did exist
significant and relevant new evidence as required under Article 14.1.1 to trigger a review of the
decision, in particular the video evidence and the verbal evidence from the Team and from the FIA. It
was clear to us that the substratum of the original decision, namely the representation of there being
an agreement, was called into question by the new evidence.
We therefore proceeded to hear the substance of the request for review.
Having reviewed the new evidence, we concluded that there was no clear agreement, as was
suggested to the Stewards previously, that could be relied upon to determine that parties had agreed
that a jack touching a car would amount to working on the car, without more.
In the circumstances, we considered that our original decision to impose a penalty on Car 14 needed
to be reversed and we did so accordingly.
This post was edited on 3/19/23 at 5:19 pm
Posted on 3/19/23 at 5:13 pm to busbeepbeep
The steward's decision. Note they throw the race director under the bus.
LINK
This is prior to being overturned.
eta-They say since there was no work done on the car disqualification would be excessive.
While giving a 10 second penalty for working on the car during a 5 sec penalty.
What a bunch of fricking morons. Is Nascar running the FIA now?
LINK
This is prior to being overturned.
eta-They say since there was no work done on the car disqualification would be excessive.
While giving a 10 second penalty for working on the car during a 5 sec penalty.
What a bunch of fricking morons. Is Nascar running the FIA now?
This post was edited on 3/19/23 at 5:16 pm
Posted on 3/19/23 at 5:17 pm to BuckyCheese
quote:
The clear submission by the Team was that the alleged representation of an agreement between the
FIA and the teams that touching the car in any way, including with a jack, would constitute “working”
on the car for the purposes of Article 54.4 (c) of the Sporting Regulations, was incorrect and therefore
the basis of the Steward’s decision was wrong
That's interesting. It reads like the teams all agreed that the jack touching the car is a penalty, but the race stewards don't agree with what the teams agree.
quote:
We therefore proceeded to hear the substance of the request for review.
This also reads that no decision has been made. Another review is needed.
This post was edited on 3/19/23 at 5:19 pm
Posted on 3/19/23 at 5:18 pm to busbeepbeep
Here you go.. official
LINK
Never mind, I’m slow… damn airplane WiFi
LINK
Never mind, I’m slow… damn airplane WiFi
This post was edited on 3/19/23 at 5:20 pm
Posted on 3/19/23 at 5:23 pm to fightin tigers
I posted the text from the decision on the previous page...
ETA...
https://twitter.com/ChrisMedlandF1/status/1637580198844440577
quote:
In support of the Petition for Review, the Stewards were shown minutes of the latest SAC meeting
and video evidence of 7 different instances where cars were touched by the jack while serving a
similar penalty to the one imposed on Car 14 without being penalized.
The clear submission by the Team was that the alleged representation of an agreement between the
FIA and the teams that touching the car in any way, including with a jack, would constitute “working”
on the car for the purposes of Article 54.4 (c) of the Sporting Regulations, was incorrect and therefore
the basis of the Steward’s decision was wrong.
quote:
In the circumstances, we considered that our original decision to impose a penalty on Car 14 needed
to be reversed and we did so accordingly.
ETA...
https://twitter.com/ChrisMedlandF1/status/1637580198844440577
quote:
Chris Medland
@ChrisMedlandF1
The FIA will address the conflicting precedents regarding the definition of “working on the car” at a Sporting Advisory Committee (SAC) meeting this week to make sure a clarification is issued by the next race in Melbourne #F1
This post was edited on 3/19/23 at 5:26 pm
Posted on 3/19/23 at 5:26 pm to bikerack
quote:
The FIA will address the conflicting precedents regarding the definition of “working on the car” at a Sporting Advisory Committee (SAC) meeting this week to make sure a clarification is issued by the next race in Melbourne #F1
Sounds like these stewards feel it was addressed, but last week the stewards missed it. As well as last years stewards missed it.
Agree, think it is a shite penalty, hopefully FIA clears it up.
Posted on 3/19/23 at 5:37 pm to fightin tigers
Rule is what it is, don’t touch the car… the problem with Alonso’s penalty is he had 60% of the race to push and get a larger gap had he known. They should have to inform within 5 laps
Posted on 3/19/23 at 5:38 pm to fightin tigers
4D chess move, gave a trophy to Mercedes just so they could rip it away and further demoralize them.
Posted on 3/19/23 at 5:47 pm to Lsut81
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Rule is what it is, don’t touch the car…
That is not spelled out in the rulebook.
The pertinent rules have been posted on another forum and nowhere is "touching" the car mentioned. Only work.
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