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Posted on 5/11/23 at 5:30 pm to
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 5/11/23 at 5:30 pm to
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Danny better bring it, because he’s got a lot to lose if he can’t podium in that Red Bull car.
So the exact same position he was in when he mentally collapsed and left for Renault. Ahhh F1 drama.
Posted by kengel2
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Posted on 5/11/23 at 6:27 pm to
Doesn't seem like Lawson is going to make it.
Posted by extremetigerfanatic
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Posted on 5/12/23 at 7:19 am to
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So the exact same position he was in when he mentally collapsed and left for Renault. Ahhh F1 drama.

I mean didn’t Danny get like three times the money from Renault? Felt like the mental break was when he left Renault. It was almost like you could see he knew he should have stayed at RB.
This post was edited on 5/12/23 at 7:20 am
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 5/12/23 at 7:48 am to
RIC rightfully left RBR because they wanted him to become a #2 when he was in his prime.

RBR was probably right to back Max all the way, but RIC had no requirement to wait around to play second fiddle just because it was going to be a better car.
This post was edited on 5/12/23 at 7:49 am
Posted by sorantable
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Posted on 5/12/23 at 8:09 am to
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RIC rightfully left RBR because they wanted him to become a #2 when he was in his prime.

Yep. You can’t fault him for that move. Fault him for jumping from Renault to McLaren.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
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Posted on 5/12/23 at 8:30 am to
I don't know. Mclaren looked to be on the right path before the most recent formula. Renault/Alpine is toxic as frick because French. I'd have probably jumped ship, too. Plus, you get a nicer company car
Posted by sorantable
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Posted on 5/12/23 at 8:30 am to
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Plus, you get a nicer company car

frick yea.
Posted by 1999
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Posted on 5/12/23 at 10:15 am to
Alpine is always at the start of a new 5 year plan. Really pathetic results when you consider they are a full works team.
Posted by nola tiger lsu
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Posted on 5/12/23 at 10:40 am to
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RIC rightfully left RBR because they wanted him to become a #2 when he was in his prime.


He has always been more interested in being the funny guy than a serious driver. Classic immaturity.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
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Posted on 5/12/23 at 11:27 am to
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He has always been more interested in being the funny guy than a serious driver. Classic immaturity.


This is how we end up with George Russell the PR Man.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 5/12/23 at 1:13 pm to
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He has always been more interested in being the funny guy than a serious driver. Classic immaturity.


Yes, the eight-time grand prix winner doesn't take driving seriously.
Posted by YOURADHERE
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 5/12/23 at 1:54 pm to
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I don't know. Mclaren looked to be on the right path before the most recent formula. Renault/Alpine is toxic as frick because French. I'd have probably jumped ship, too. Plus, you get a nicer company car



2020 and 2021 McLaren was so fun to watch, it's why I became a fan of the team, they really did seem to be on the upswing and were so fun to pull for back then. Lando and Carlos each scored a podium in 2020 and were consistently in the points, 2021 saw a slow start for Danny where we hoped he'd turn it around, the Monzo 1/2, 4 podiums for Lando, the heartbreaking Sochi race, I really thought I'd be pulling for a team fighting for wins when the 2022 regs came in.

Then the wheels fell off, the car looked like shite, Danny Ricc did too, and now just being in the points seems like a victory for them. Total bummer.


I don't blame Ricciardo for his team moves, Red Bull rumored to want him to accept the #2 position and allegedly lowballed his contract, where Renault were willing to pay him something like $20 million per year and duped him with their 5 year plan to be winning races, we see how that panned out. When he saw the writing on the walls I don't blame him for jumping ship to a McLaren team that looked to be on the rise.
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 5/12/23 at 2:49 pm to
Everyone remembers 2016 being the Mercs, but RIC upped Seb by 45 pts that year. It is a lot to say "if it weren't for the Mercs" however RIC showed he had enough to be champion one day.

Less than 2 years later and RBR are putting him out to pasture.
This post was edited on 5/12/23 at 2:51 pm
Posted by YOURADHERE
Member since Dec 2006
8497 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 3:28 pm to
Right, and even post-Red Bull he was no chump, beating Nico on points 54-37 in 2019 and then beating Ocon 119-62 in 2020 plus scoring Renault they're first podium, two P3s in 2020, since 2011. I think Red Bull lowballed him with the assumption they could get solid #2 performance from Gasly and then Albon and that didn't work out for them.

I'd remember reading when he moved to McLaren that Carlos had warned him that the car was particularly tricky to understand, and I just don't think he ever grasped it. The fanboy in me isn't ready to accept that Ricciardo just magically turned into straight arse overnight, more that the McLaren is extremely hard to get it right. Which also makes me curious how much potential Lando would have in a better car, in a similar case to George in the Williams, a shite car is all he's ever known.

The Race had a good video about how Red Bull was really stunned at some pretty bad habits Ricciardo had picked up driving the McLaren, saying that they were shocked how far off from Max and Checo he was in the sim, and he'd had to change his driving style to suit the McLaren. However, it sounds like he's dropping those habits and coming back around.

With the recent rumors that DeVries is getting pressured to lose his seat to Danny Ricc does that mean Red Bull feel like he's back up to form? Hopefully we get to find out.
Posted by TouchedTheAxeIn82
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/12/23 at 4:23 pm to
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With the recent rumors that DeVries is getting pressured to lose his seat to Danny Ricc does that mean Red Bull feel like he's back up to form? Hopefully we get to find out.

I think the rumor that Ricciardo might replace de Vries got started because there was a rumor that Ricciardo went to AT for a seat fitting. However, that rumor got shot down, he didn't go to AT. The current scuttlebutt is that Liam Lawson is Red Bull's first choice if de Vries gets kicked out. But I don't know if that says anything about what they think of Ricciardo right now.
Posted by bikerack
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 5/15/23 at 10:23 pm to
Sounds like Imola is going to get pounded with rain this weekend and some are calling for the GP to be abandoned due to the flooding risks in the area.

Sunday may be the driest day. Quali may be the wettest.
Posted by bikerack
NH
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 5/16/23 at 7:04 am to
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.pirelli-to-test-new-qualifying-rule-and-introduce-new-wet-compound-at-imola.4vzKu8tA78Rvum1QaGOUzc.html

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Imola hosts the first round of the European triple-header and, while there, Pirelli are testing a new rule that mandates the use of every tyre compound in qualifying. This regulation change reduces the amount of slick tyres that drivers are allocated – from 13 to 11 sets – over the weekend.

“At Imola we will be testing a new regulation that requires teams to use a different type of compound for each of the three sessions, with the hards fitted for Q1, the mediums for Q2, and the softs for Q3,” said Motorsport Director Mario Isola.


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Pirelli are also introducing a new full wet tyre compound for the Emilia Romagna Grand Prix, similarly seeking to improve sustainability as they avoid the use of electric tyre blankets, with the objective to eliminate thermal blankets by 2024.

“Also with the same end in mind, starting with this Grand Prix a new compound for Full Wet tires will be introduced that will not require the use of thermal blankets before being used." added Isola. "Track tests have shown even better performance than the previous Cinturato Blue Full Wet, even without electrically heating the tire. This is a first concrete step, the result of studies carried out by Pirelli, toward the use of dry tires without preheating as well."
Posted by 1999
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 5/16/23 at 8:53 am to






feels like the first game or two of an LSU football season.
This post was edited on 5/16/23 at 8:56 am
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
33628 posts
Posted on 5/16/23 at 8:58 am to
quote:

Hamilton has asked FIA to change the regulations to stop Red Bull's domination till 2026

"I think it's something really negative."

"It's unfortunate, because we still have the same kind of gaps between the teams."


quote:

"I don't know what the solution is for the future, but I think we are going to have to keep adapting these regulations , otherwise it could be the same as now for years, until 2026."


this dude
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
28510 posts
Posted on 5/16/23 at 9:13 am to
1) How can sustainability be their goal when they require teams to change tires for each qualifying session?
2) Thassalotta water.
This post was edited on 5/16/23 at 9:27 am
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