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re: 2023 Formula 1 season Thread

Posted on 4/18/23 at 9:02 am to
Posted by VABuckeye
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Posted on 4/18/23 at 9:02 am to
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If Sainz was penalized then other should have been as well.


100% agree. That penalty was harsh given the circumstances of the red flag and restart.

Replied to your email. Montreal is a no-go for us this year. Seems that my wife reminded me just how much travel we already have planned for the summer and fall.
Posted by MSTiger33
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Posted on 4/18/23 at 9:03 am to
Did anyone see the new rocket power Mohawk video?
Posted by 1999
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Posted on 4/18/23 at 9:18 am to
The problem with Honda is their board is hot/cold on F1. I think that’s why RBR ditched them for Ford. And if Alonso drives another Honda engine, the GP2 comment will be coming back lol.
This post was edited on 4/18/23 at 9:22 am
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 4/18/23 at 9:48 am to
If you haven't heard Lawrence's interview on Beyond the Grid it is worth a listen.

After the performance this year his outlook seems a lot more realistic. Very realistic about what it takes to compete.
Posted by Jor Jor The Dinosaur
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Posted on 4/18/23 at 12:29 pm to
This is some fine Italian engineering, merging gorgeous form with blistering speed. Bellissimo

Posted by TexasTiger33
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Posted on 4/18/23 at 12:41 pm to


The Temple of Speed is number 2 on my list after Spa and preceding Suzuka.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 4/18/23 at 1:08 pm to
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Sainz really got screwed in that whole situation.

Everyone was forgiven despite them causing the actual red flag. If Sainz was penalized then other should have been as well.



100%. F1 clearly loves the Alonso story this year so they are going to swing everything in his favor.
Posted by TouchedTheAxeIn82
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Posted on 4/18/23 at 1:11 pm to
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The problem with Honda is their board is hot/cold on F1. I think that’s why RBR ditched them for Ford. And if Alonso drives another Honda engine, the GP2 comment will be coming back lol.

Honda's wishy-washy commitment to F1 has got to be very aggravating to the teams.

My take on them talking to Aston Martin is that it's a big endorsement of Lawrence Stroll's commitment and decision-making.

Honda's reputation is generally that they are not a forgive-and-forget organization, but maybe they figure Alonso's at the end of his career and won't be around in 2026.
Posted by TouchedTheAxeIn82
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Posted on 4/18/23 at 1:23 pm to
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I don't think I've ever seen anyone post this site before, so I will mention racingcircuits.info. They list every track in the world and show each historical configuration. Plus they discuss the history of the track. It's a pretty impressive effort. Here's Monza:

racingcircuits.info/europe/italy/monza.html

Looks like they introduced Variante Ascari in 1972, and the first versions of the first two chicanes in 1976.

Not sure about other sims, but the Automobilista sims (Reiza) have some nice historical variants of tracks.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 4/19/23 at 10:41 am to
Where yat, Baku?

Posted by TouchedTheAxeIn82
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6489 posts
Posted on 4/19/23 at 12:14 pm to
Good article on why Michelin is not currently interested in returning to F1. Michelin is the best in the business, and this a valid criticism of F1's priorities. IMO Pirelli sucks, so for them to be the tire supplier to F1 instead of Michelin or Bridgestone is a sad commentary on the tire rules.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/michelin-still-not-interested-in-f1-unless-it-can-supply-tires-that-dont-destroy-themselves

One of the great periods of F1 was when we had the tire wars between Michelin and Bridgestone. Another way to improve the show without a sole supplier being forced to create artificially degrading tires is to re-introduce refueling.
Posted by TexasTiger33
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 4/19/23 at 12:19 pm to
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One of the great periods of F1 was when we had the tire wars between Michelin and Bridgestone. Another way to improve the show without a sole supplier being forced to create artificially degrading tires is to re-introduce refueling.


All of this. Every single bit. And bring back V10s.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
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Posted on 4/19/23 at 12:45 pm to
Seems the only options are to have tires that degrade or bring back refueling.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
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Posted on 4/19/23 at 4:35 pm to
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Did anyone see the new rocket power Mohawk video
yes. I believe
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
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Posted on 4/19/23 at 4:37 pm to
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And bring back V10s.
my body is ready
Posted by Tornado Alley
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Posted on 4/19/23 at 4:41 pm to
quote:

Good article on why Michelin is not currently interested in returning to F1. Michelin is the best in the business, and this a valid criticism of F1's priorities. IMO Pirelli sucks, so for them to be the tire supplier to F1 instead of Michelin or Bridgestone is a sad commentary on the tire rules.

LINK

One of the great periods of F1 was when we had the tire wars between Michelin and Bridgestone. Another way to improve the show without a sole supplier being forced to create artificially degrading tires is to re-introduce refueling.


I know F1 is all about having net zero emissions by 2030.

What hurts the environment more? Refueling a car with specialized racing fuel or changing a shite ton of tires?
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
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Posted on 4/19/23 at 4:48 pm to
Who cares? Its 20 cars racing for a few hours every 3 weeks
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
27727 posts
Posted on 4/19/23 at 5:08 pm to
I agree. I am trying to figure out which option is, in fact, more harmful to the environment - refueling mid-race or constantly changing tires.
This post was edited on 4/19/23 at 5:09 pm
Posted by fightin tigers
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Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 4/19/23 at 5:47 pm to
Well, the tires get 'recycled' for whatever that is worth.

Probably a push on transportation of fuel and tires. Probably a push again on energy on heating tires vs cooling fuel.

I like refueling because it could possibly solve some of these "end under yellow" and offers endless strategy options when combined with the current tire lineup.

Going to a tire competition again with the limited amount of testing/money available doesn't really seem appealing. Whatever manufacturer gets it right will be really hard to catch.
Posted by 1999
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Posted on 4/21/23 at 12:28 pm to
Internets saying Alonso is dating Taylor swift.
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