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re: 2022 Formula 1 Season Thread
Posted on 10/28/22 at 7:47 am to kengel2
Posted on 10/28/22 at 7:47 am to kengel2
quote:
A Haas representative said that someone in FIA race control told the team they had 60 minutes to submit their protest. This was incorrect - Haas only had a 30 minute window.
Clown show
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Posted on 10/28/22 at 8:26 am to 1999
With as many meatball flags as Haas has gotten this year, it should have been dealt with during the race.
Pretty wild that RC or Haas doesn't know the actual rule, though there should probably be a provision that Haas went off instructions that RC gave them to file a protest.
Pretty wild that RC or Haas doesn't know the actual rule, though there should probably be a provision that Haas went off instructions that RC gave them to file a protest.
Posted on 10/28/22 at 9:20 am to 1999
quote:
| BREAKING: The FIA penalise Red Bull with a $7 million fine and a 10% reduction in development time for the team's 2021 budget cap breach.
Worth the elite catering jmo
Posted on 10/28/22 at 9:21 am to 1999
The fine is meh, not sure it counts toward budget caps.
The 10% development may be big if it is 10% across the board.
The 10% development may be big if it is 10% across the board.
Posted on 10/28/22 at 9:21 am to 1999
quote:
The FIA penalise Red Bull with a $7 million fine a
Guess they will be Door Dashing next year
Posted on 10/28/22 at 9:37 am to fightin tigers
Its based on their year-end standing, so as WCC they'll now be allowed 63%, instead of 73% if I'm reading correctly.
Posted on 10/28/22 at 9:39 am to fightin tigers
quote:
The fine is meh, not sure it counts toward budget caps.
The 10% development may be big if it is 10% across the board.
I think the fine should probably go towards the cap, and without delving into the fiscal information on how the cap was actually breached and how blatant it was, could tie in to the severity of the penalty.
You said it earlier in the thread that the gains that they have already gotten could potentially compound with the new regulations, the 10% will hopefully stem some of that.
Posted on 10/28/22 at 9:49 am to TigerAlumni2010
quote:
think the fine should probably go towards the cap
The only issue is this late in the year they have no way to rectify the penalty. And most FIA penalties are exempt from the budget cap.
Did anyone see what the actual number breach was?
This post was edited on 10/28/22 at 9:50 am
Posted on 10/28/22 at 9:55 am to fightin tigers
Yeah Medland has good info
As a RBR fan I am somewhat relieved, it could have been worse. Will be fascinating to see how the reduced time affects things, especially if it’s a close race with merc.
quote:
BREAKING: Red Bull gets $7m fine and 10% reduction in car development time for budget cap breach. Breach was £1,864,000 ($2.2m) or 1.6%, but FIA acknowledged if a tax credit had been correctly applied would have been £432,652 ($0.5m), or 0.37%
quote:
No, fines relating to the cost cap are excluded from the cost cap. That basically renders that part irrelevant, but the 10% development reduction that came from what is essentially an overspend of 0.37% that was added up across 13 areas is significant.
As a RBR fan I am somewhat relieved, it could have been worse. Will be fascinating to see how the reduced time affects things, especially if it’s a close race with merc.
This post was edited on 10/28/22 at 9:59 am
Posted on 10/28/22 at 9:58 am to fightin tigers
quote:
Did anyone see what the actual number breach was?
Posted on 10/28/22 at 9:59 am to 1999
FIA is doing a good job making it hurt then, 10% for 500K seems extremely punitive as it should be to deter future noncompliance. Has there been any updates on Aston Martin overspending or did that get resolved, hadn't heard much about them.
Posted on 10/28/22 at 10:00 am to 1999
Aston Martin now on deck.
Posted on 10/28/22 at 10:17 am to 1999
450k fine for AM
quote:
From Aston Martins ABA: 10. Cost pursuant to Article 3.1(i) of the Financial Regulations (concerning cost of desks and chairs);
This post was edited on 10/28/22 at 10:19 am
Posted on 10/28/22 at 10:55 am to fightin tigers
quote:I think i read winning the WCC cuts their wind tunnel testing to 70% so any additional penalties there will definitely be problematic for RB
The 10% development may be big if it is 10% across the board.
Posted on 10/28/22 at 10:59 am to 1999
quote:catering and desk chairs? I feel like we're being lied to with all this bullshite
concerning cost of desks and chairs)
This post was edited on 10/28/22 at 11:00 am
Posted on 10/28/22 at 11:41 am to UncleFestersLegs
quote:
catering and desk chairs? I feel like we're being lied to with all this bullshite
The costs are interchangeable.
They can say 'oh we only went over because we fricked the math on these desks and chairs'
Nah mate, you messed up the desk math and then spent those savings on a new front wing.
Posted on 10/28/22 at 11:45 am to UncleFestersLegs
Aston Martin furniture overspend.
Posted on 10/28/22 at 11:47 am to UncleFestersLegs
quote:
I think i read winning the WCC cuts their wind tunnel testing to 70% so any additional penalties there will definitely be problematic for RB
I've seen that they will have 63% of the baseline tunnel time.
Posted on 10/28/22 at 1:21 pm to BuckyCheese
Karun Chandhok
@karunchandhok
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2h
The financial penalty to Red Bull may appear light to many...
However losing 10% of windtunnel time will mean that if everyone finishes in the same order as they are in now, they will have 12% less than Ferrari 17% less than Mercedes for next year. That will have a big impact!
@karunchandhok
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2h
The financial penalty to Red Bull may appear light to many...
However losing 10% of windtunnel time will mean that if everyone finishes in the same order as they are in now, they will have 12% less than Ferrari 17% less than Mercedes for next year. That will have a big impact!
Posted on 10/28/22 at 1:24 pm to BuckyCheese
Engineer: "De Vries behind on an outlap."
Carlos Sainz: "Debris?"
Engineer: "No, no. De Vries."
Carlos Sainz: "Debris?"
Engineer: "No, no. De Vries."
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