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re: 2022 Formula 1 Season Thread

Posted on 6/20/22 at 4:36 pm to
Posted by BleedPnG
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Posted on 6/20/22 at 4:36 pm to
You have to figure RBR would have to hire all the Honda employees or begin to replace them to make that full transition.

Not that it's not do'able I don't know that Honda engineer culture and if they would leave a company like Honda for Redbull.
Posted by TexasTiger33
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Posted on 6/20/22 at 4:42 pm to
quote:

Another saying, “what’s the easiest way to become a millionaire? Be a billionaire and go racing.”


That's the one. Thank you.

Posted by TexasTiger33
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Posted on 6/20/22 at 4:51 pm to
I will add, these conversations on engine manufacturers are a part of the fabric of F1, yet this is basically a non-issue in the junior categories.

That is why I enjoy F2 so much: driver talent is the biggest factor in winning. F2 has much more wheel to wheel racing as well.

I love F1, but it has a long way to go to make races more competitive on a regular basis. Certain circuits need to go.
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 6/20/22 at 5:07 pm to
F2 suffers from the same problem of big teams having better programs and pay drivers buying those seats. Mazepin finished 3rd and probably could have bought a title if he needed to.
Posted by BleedPnG
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Posted on 6/20/22 at 5:11 pm to
Hard not to argue how top heavy F1 is and I also agree, as a fairly new fan, that certian circuits need to be retired.
With that said....

As a new fan I understand the long standing tradition that's sport enthusiasts love.

Your post is at the heart of why I hoped we would see a move from 4 power unit manufacturing teams to 6 or even more!
Posted by auisssa
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 6/20/22 at 5:47 pm to
Pretty sure Gene Haas was on the American Airline flight today to Charlotte. Cheap arse.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 6/20/22 at 5:51 pm to
quote:

F2 suffers from the same problem of big teams having better programs and pay drivers buying those seats. Mazepin finished 3rd and probably could have bought a title if he needed to.



He actually won a F2 race. As did Latifi I believe.

Part of the reason I don't put much stock in Schu's F2 championship. That he didn't win until his second year while running for the top team in F2.
This post was edited on 6/20/22 at 5:55 pm
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 6/20/22 at 5:56 pm to
quote:

Another saying, “what’s the easiest way to become a millionaire? Be a billionaire and go racing.”




I've usually heard it as; "How to make a small fortune racing? Start with a large one."
Posted by HubbaBubba
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 6/20/22 at 7:15 pm to
quote:

Not that it's not do'able I don't know that Honda engineer culture and if they would leave a company like Honda for Redbull.

Dusde, in Japanese culture, leaving for another company is rare. You go to work for companies for life over there.
Posted by OU Guy
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Posted on 6/20/22 at 7:48 pm to
Adam Stern
@A_S12 4h
Zak Brown says that the value of @F1 franchises has grown massively since teams agreed to a $200 million buy-in fee in 2020, though he wouldn't say what the new number is.

"The value of an F1 franchise from when the Concorde Agreement was signed to now — it’s grown rapidly."

Posted by OU Guy
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Posted on 6/20/22 at 7:50 pm to
Adam Stern
@A_S12
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@F1Miami is finalizing a deal with Austrian caterer Do & Co to take over food service in the Paddock Club next year, per sources, after some teams and VIPs complained about the service during the inaugural race weekend (a local caterer was used).

Do & Co works most F1 races
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 6/20/22 at 8:07 pm to
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Zak Brown says that the value of @F1 franchises has grown massively since teams agreed to a $200 million buy-in fee in 2020, though he wouldn't say what the new number is.


The budget cap has actually raised the value of the teams as they are no longer a financial black hole.

Every team, other than Haas possibly since they seemingly refuse to get a title sponsor, should be profitable. The front running teams should be hugely profitable. Hell, the bottom team on the grid is guaranteed something like $80 million just from the F1 prize fund.
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 8:50 pm to
I wonder how many cans of Red Bull are sold because of the F1 team? It would just be interesting to me to see that number.
Posted by fightin tigers
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Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 6/20/22 at 8:53 pm to
I thought it was said that Alpha Tauri will now supply all the official F1 gear for teams. Not sure how that works or if it was just F1 gear and the teams will still have their brand sponsors.

Crazy an energy drink company has grown to what it is.
Posted by 225rumpshaker
Texas
Member since Sep 2006
12986 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 9:27 pm to
Just wanted to say after really picking up following this a couple years ago during Covid lock downs etc, this thread has and prior have been awesome and informative.

Nothing else just wanted to mention that.
Posted by Matador
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/20/22 at 9:36 pm to
Anyone watch Baby Drivers on Discovery+? Lil Troy a beast
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 6/20/22 at 9:59 pm to
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Honda moved back the date they are turning it all over, haven't really been public as to why.


They saw dollar signs from the WDC. I'd also guess the ax of the MGU-H in 2026 has a lot to with Honda sticking around and VW/Audi/Porsche becoming more of a possibility.
Posted by LSU Grad Alabama Fan
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Posted on 6/20/22 at 10:46 pm to
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@F1Miami is finalizing a deal with Austrian caterer Do & Co to take over food service in the Paddock Club next year, per sources, after some teams and VIPs complained about the service during the inaugural race weekend (a local caterer was used).

Do & Co works most F1 races


Earlier this year I partied a couple of nights in Tulum with 3 young Dutch chicks whom I believe work for Do & Co. When I met them the first thing I asked was about Max then they told me they are hostesses in the VIP sections of F1 races. I think they instantly accepted me after that.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85376 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 5:49 am to
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Honda moved back the date they are turning it all over, haven't really been public as to why.


Havent read this yet.. Knew they agreed to sell the IP over to RBR.

I'm sure after the way last year ended, they were regretting getting out. Worst possible time.
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:07 am to
Amazing how a podium finish fixed Hamilton’s back pain issues
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