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Posted on 6/19/22 at 8:00 pm to BuckyCheese
Posted on 6/19/22 at 8:36 pm to BuckyCheese
That is one of the funniest memes I have seen in a while
Posted on 6/19/22 at 10:18 pm to 225rumpshaker
One more
Posted on 6/20/22 at 11:09 am to BuckyCheese
Would love to hear from other F1 fans on thoughts of Audi and Porsche jumping into F1 as power unit manufacturers.
Based on success of manufacturing teams over customer teams, seems it could really create a fight at the top?
Based on success of manufacturing teams over customer teams, seems it could really create a fight at the top?
Posted on 6/20/22 at 12:05 pm to BleedPnG
Could. But maybe not for a few years. Alpine/Renault has never gotten their shite together, Honda struggles were pretty brutal as well.
VW is a huge corporation that could have many moving parts to satisfy.
VW is a huge corporation that could have many moving parts to satisfy.
Posted on 6/20/22 at 1:34 pm to fightin tigers
I am not fully aware of full F1 history.
Something that makes the Audi / Porsche entrance potential unique is the new 2026 Power unit regulations.
Sounds like the regulations are being Taylor made for VW as they are already working on the units.
Something that makes the Audi / Porsche entrance potential unique is the new 2026 Power unit regulations.
Sounds like the regulations are being Taylor made for VW as they are already working on the units.
Posted on 6/20/22 at 1:43 pm to BleedPnG
There's a saying that goes something like, "the easiest way to lose a billion dollars is to start an F1 team."
However, with the new cost caps, if they started a team(s), they may be able to catch up in terms of R&D fast (no pun) enough to be competitive in a few years.
However, with the new cost caps, if they started a team(s), they may be able to catch up in terms of R&D fast (no pun) enough to be competitive in a few years.
This post was edited on 6/20/22 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 6/20/22 at 2:02 pm to BuckyCheese
I said I wasnt going o post in the thread anymore because nola tiger sits on his high horse in here and tries to lord his knowledge over everyone. I had a complaint so to him I wasnt smart enough to talk about the sport. But whatever.
Just wanted to jump in and say that that was a dang fun race. I'm a big Sainz fan so I was hoping he would take it but man Max was impressive. When Sainz got it to .444 I thought on the next lap Sainze might get him, especially with the fresher tires, but Max just didnt make any mistakes.
Also, it seems like at some point Brundle would get knocked out with his grid interviews. He breaks up conversations and just disses people in an instant. Yesterday he said like two words to the dang F1 CEO and just left him without saying bye. The CEO
Just wanted to jump in and say that that was a dang fun race. I'm a big Sainz fan so I was hoping he would take it but man Max was impressive. When Sainz got it to .444 I thought on the next lap Sainze might get him, especially with the fresher tires, but Max just didnt make any mistakes.
Also, it seems like at some point Brundle would get knocked out with his grid interviews. He breaks up conversations and just disses people in an instant. Yesterday he said like two words to the dang F1 CEO and just left him without saying bye. The CEO
Posted on 6/20/22 at 2:07 pm to BleedPnG
From what I recall Audi is looking to come in as a full team while Porsche would just be a PU supplier. Likely with RB.
Supposedly Audi tried to buy McLaren F1 and got rebuffed.
Supposedly Audi tried to buy McLaren F1 and got rebuffed.
Posted on 6/20/22 at 2:13 pm to iwyLSUiwy
I think Brundle and Domenicali go way back. They have both been around the sport forever so there is probably a personal connection that allows Brundle to do such shite and not catch flak. Brundle is also very self aware of his place in the sport and how his grid walks are meant to show the chaos.
Also, don't leave the thread. Screw the haters who lord over. The sports soaring populatrity is great, it won't last forever so the wankers can get over it.
Also, don't leave the thread. Screw the haters who lord over. The sports soaring populatrity is great, it won't last forever so the wankers can get over it.
Posted on 6/20/22 at 2:14 pm to BuckyCheese
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Supposedly Audi tried to buy McLaren F1 and got rebuffed.
There were whispers that one will partner with RBR to help with engine costs/development.
Posted on 6/20/22 at 2:21 pm to fightin tigers
I guess my knee jerk reaction is why in the world would RBR ever get away from their own PU, especially after the success this year BUT the new regs could be pushing that.
I really am loving F1 but this whole buying someone else who is a competitors engine to me seems to be a real weakness in the sport.
The success difference is pretty staggering.
I really am loving F1 but this whole buying someone else who is a competitors engine to me seems to be a real weakness in the sport.
The success difference is pretty staggering.
Posted on 6/20/22 at 2:43 pm to iwyLSUiwy
Please continue to participate in the thread. I hate for someone to feel unwelcome for any reason.
That said, Martin Brundle is a goddamned treasure.
That said, Martin Brundle is a goddamned treasure.
Posted on 6/20/22 at 2:50 pm to VABuckeye
I’m curious if RBR is setup to handle the PU development well. I know there was a transition plan in place with Honda to completely go over to Redbull, but I know some extension was worked out.
Maybe they need more infrastructure to handle that
Maybe they need more infrastructure to handle that
Posted on 6/20/22 at 3:49 pm to BleedPnG
The RBR engine is still a Honda. Being developed by Honda people. It’s just not official.
RBR would be in way over their heads designing and developing a PU with a brand new formula. They Need Porsche. They burnt their bridge with Renault and Merc/Ferrari would be no go’s.
RBR would be in way over their heads designing and developing a PU with a brand new formula. They Need Porsche. They burnt their bridge with Renault and Merc/Ferrari would be no go’s.
Posted on 6/20/22 at 4:14 pm to XenScott
Got Ya, so that takes Porsche out of mix as a potentially NEW manufacturer team if they will be tied to RBR.
As there are 4 manufacturer teams today, I was hoping we would see that 4 increase to 6 in future.
Especially it being Audi, Porsche. I still hold out hopes for Gazoo / Toyota to join F1
As there are 4 manufacturer teams today, I was hoping we would see that 4 increase to 6 in future.
Especially it being Audi, Porsche. I still hold out hopes for Gazoo / Toyota to join F1
Posted on 6/20/22 at 4:28 pm to TexasTiger33
Another saying, “what’s the easiest way to become a millionaire? Be a billionaire and go racing.”
Posted on 6/20/22 at 4:30 pm to XenScott
I know the PU for RBR is still Honda, but wasn’t the intent for Honda to phase out and RBR to own it in a few years?
Link to story
Link to story
quote:
The original strategy as announced late last year was that the new Red Bull Powertrains division would take complete power units from Honda, with full engineering support at the tracks, only in 2022.
Once RBP had got up to speed it would then build the engines from Honda parts at its Milton Keynes facility in 2023, 2024 and 2025 while simultaneously working on its own project for the new F1 rules that come into force in 2026.
However Red Bull motorsport boss Helmut Marko has revealed that the plan has changed, and the intention now is that Honda will continue to supply complete engines from Japan to Red Bull and AlphaTauri until the end of 2025.
The decision removes any concerns about issues such as quality control that might result from moving the building of the power units to the UK, while also freeing up RBP to focus more on its 2026 project.
This post was edited on 6/20/22 at 4:34 pm
Posted on 6/20/22 at 4:34 pm to 225rumpshaker
RBR will own the IP, or longterm lease from Honda. Honda moved back the date they are turning it all over, haven't really been public as to why.
RBR is taking other teams engine experts and some from Honda to build up their new team. It is speculated RBR is open to the idea of getting help from Audi/Porsche while bot turning over all the engine duties to them.
Engines are locked, so any R&D at the RBPT offices are for the next formula.
RBR is taking other teams engine experts and some from Honda to build up their new team. It is speculated RBR is open to the idea of getting help from Audi/Porsche while bot turning over all the engine duties to them.
Engines are locked, so any R&D at the RBPT offices are for the next formula.
This post was edited on 6/20/22 at 4:36 pm
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