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2003 Fiesta Bowl
Posted on 12/4/19 at 11:06 am
Posted on 12/4/19 at 11:06 am
I just watched the ESPN Classic edit, had never seen the entire course of the game, just tuned in for the ending when it aired.
Thoughts and observations:
- I remembered Ken Dorsey was a caretaker type QB, he was not, dude was a legitimately great college QB.
- Holy frick was Kellen Winslow, Jr. talented, too bad he is also human garbage. So many future NFL stars on both teams
- No one should complain about the infamous pass interference call that gave OSU a second chance in OT: it was bad, but the Miami DB got away with a blatant hold on OSU's last drive in regulation that would've probably iced the game
- Both QB's were tough af and took absolute beatings by the defenses. Dorsey apparently got a dislocated shoulder in the 2nd OT and went out for a play, he probably shouldn't have gone back in and it showed, but you know he didn't want his Miami career to end like that.
- Craig Krenzel was basically Bo Wallace 1.0: big and goofy af, but somehow effective at running and occasionally at passing as well. Krenzel was OSU's leading rusher in the third quarter!
- Maurice Clarett tracking down Sean Taylor and stripping the ball from him was his biggest play of the game most likely, and it was jaw dropping, just like George Teague in the 1993 Sugar Bowl.
- Will Allen was a great player, but a piece of shite for what he did to Willis McGahee's knee (it seemed like he was targeting it) and then doing a double throat slash gesture while McGahee was on the ground.
- Tressel seemed like a great guy and he completely outcoached Uncle Fester (Coker)
-I expected OSU fans to dominate: they are the biggest public institution in the country while Miami is a tiny private school, but it most have been 95% OSU fans. Miami had trouble getting signals due to the noise
- Miami uniforms at the time were clean af, idk why they changed it up
- I say it's the greatest title game b/c there were great plays by both offenses and defenses that caused huge momentum shifts. It seemed like one team was going to pull away, then the other stepped up. 2005-6 Texas vs USC was basically all offense and Texas made one key stop that USC's depleted defense never could (excluding VY's knee).
Thoughts and observations:
- I remembered Ken Dorsey was a caretaker type QB, he was not, dude was a legitimately great college QB.
- Holy frick was Kellen Winslow, Jr. talented, too bad he is also human garbage. So many future NFL stars on both teams
- No one should complain about the infamous pass interference call that gave OSU a second chance in OT: it was bad, but the Miami DB got away with a blatant hold on OSU's last drive in regulation that would've probably iced the game
- Both QB's were tough af and took absolute beatings by the defenses. Dorsey apparently got a dislocated shoulder in the 2nd OT and went out for a play, he probably shouldn't have gone back in and it showed, but you know he didn't want his Miami career to end like that.
- Craig Krenzel was basically Bo Wallace 1.0: big and goofy af, but somehow effective at running and occasionally at passing as well. Krenzel was OSU's leading rusher in the third quarter!
- Maurice Clarett tracking down Sean Taylor and stripping the ball from him was his biggest play of the game most likely, and it was jaw dropping, just like George Teague in the 1993 Sugar Bowl.
- Will Allen was a great player, but a piece of shite for what he did to Willis McGahee's knee (it seemed like he was targeting it) and then doing a double throat slash gesture while McGahee was on the ground.
- Tressel seemed like a great guy and he completely outcoached Uncle Fester (Coker)
-I expected OSU fans to dominate: they are the biggest public institution in the country while Miami is a tiny private school, but it most have been 95% OSU fans. Miami had trouble getting signals due to the noise
- Miami uniforms at the time were clean af, idk why they changed it up
- I say it's the greatest title game b/c there were great plays by both offenses and defenses that caused huge momentum shifts. It seemed like one team was going to pull away, then the other stepped up. 2005-6 Texas vs USC was basically all offense and Texas made one key stop that USC's depleted defense never could (excluding VY's knee).
This post was edited on 12/4/19 at 8:48 pm
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Posted on 12/4/19 at 11:11 am to Mithridates6
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- No one should complain about the infamous pass interference call that gave OSU a second chance in OT: it was bad, but the Miami DB got away with a blatant hold on OSU's last drive in regulation that would've probably iced the gam
Gamble also caught that ball and it was ruled incomplete. Speaking of Gamble I think he was on the field for over 90% of the snaps in that game.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 11:14 am to BuckeyeATC87
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Gamble also caught that ball and it was ruled incomplete. Speaking of Gamble I think he was on the field for over 90% of the snaps in that game.
Is Gamble the last great two-way player in big time FBS? Stingley is supposedly going to play some WR for us, but idk about that given how stacked we are at that position.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 11:14 am to Mithridates6
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2003 Fiesta Bowl: the greatest BCS/CFP championship game
It's top 3. Texas/USC and Bama/Georgia are right up there. You had the Young vs Bush narrative and teams trading blows in the first one. Second one you had the freshmen coming off the bench at the half for bama. A missed field goal as time expired to win it. A 16 yard loss on a sack on 1st down that looked like it may end the game, and then the bomb to Smith that did end the game seconds later. There were a lot of high stakes plays in that second half from both sides
I don't recall the Miami/OSU game being particularly exciting other than the fact that OSU didn't get their doors blown off right out of the gate like most expected
Posted on 12/4/19 at 11:14 am to Mithridates6
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Miami uniforms at the time were clean af, idk why they changed it up
They went from Nike to Adidas. That should explain everything.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 11:17 am to Mithridates6
Zach Boren halfway through the 2012 season started playing linebacker for Ohio State because of depth and injuries. He wasn't a superstar but it showed that he would do anything for his brothers.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 11:18 am to Riseupfromtherubble
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don't recall the Miami/OSU game being particularly exciting other than the fact that OSU didn't get their doors blown off right out of the gate like most expected
I can't speak for non-fans, but as a young Buckeye I remember just being in suspense mode the entire game waiting for Miami to blow the doors off and it never came. It was 17-17 at the end of regulation, so not a ton of scoring.
Tressel loved to punt so.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 11:20 am to Mithridates6
I remember Owen Marecic starting at both fullback and linebacker for Stanford in 2010. I think he played over 100 snaps in a few games that season.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 11:22 am to Riseupfromtherubble
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I don't recall the Miami/OSU game being particularly exciting other than the fact that OSU didn't get their doors blown off right out of the gate like most expected
I'd recommend watching it (condensed, ESPN Classic version) unless you just want a complete shootout like UT-USC; the latter was a great game, but ESPN comparing USC to all-time great teams before the game was stupid and obnoxious and I knew that Texas was going to score almost every time they had the ball since USC's defense was so decimated (they had the walk-on Ting brothers in there!)
Posted on 12/4/19 at 11:23 am to Mithridates6
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I say it's the greatest title game b/c there were great plays by both offenses and defenses that caused huge momentum shifts. It seemed like one team was going to pull away, then the other stepped up. 2005-6 Texas vs USC was basically all offense and Texas made one key stop that USC's depleted defense never could (excluding VY's knee).
Eh, SC was up 14 late on Texas. SC had a chance to blow it open early too, but Bush blew that with a fumbled lateral.
Michael Griffin had an incredible goal line pick too that saved Texas 7. Miami/OSU was good, but I think the answer is still SC/Texas.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 11:28 am to KosmoCramer
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I can't speak for non-fans, but as a young Buckeye I remember just being in suspense mode the entire game waiting for Miami to blow the doors off and it never came. It was 17-17 at the end of regulation, so not a ton of scoring.
Yeah when Miami was up 7-0 and had the ball and the momentum, and it seemed like they were about to go crazy, then Dorsey threw a pick (it was probably more Andre Johnson's fault than Dorsey's)
Posted on 12/4/19 at 11:30 am to Rep520
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but Bush blew that with a fumbled lateral.
It was actually an illegal forward pass. Officials blew the call.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 11:31 am to Mithridates6
The 2006 Rose Bowl was the best national title game as a neutral observer imo
Posted on 12/4/19 at 11:43 am to Mithridates6
Texas USC best BCS CFP game ever played.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 12:26 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
The fact that Bama shouldn't have been in the CFP in 2017 completely taints the Bama/Georgia title game.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 12:31 pm to boston vol
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They went from Nike to Adidas. That should explain everything.
Nike has screwed up their fair share.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 12:32 pm to karmew32
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The fact that Bama shouldn't have been in the CFP in 2017 completely taints the Bama/Georgia title game
So it should’ve been...11-2 Ohio State with their blowout loss to Iowa? Go on. I’m intrigued at the notion that Alabama wasn’t one of the 4 best teams that year that they blew out Clemson and beat Georgia for the title
This post was edited on 12/4/19 at 12:39 pm
Posted on 12/4/19 at 12:34 pm to Mithridates6
USC-Texas game wasn't "all offense" - those points were hard earned.
You're acting like the game was Baylor/Oklahoma or LSU/Bama/Auburn this year.
USC scored 10 points in the 1st half for the supposed greatest offense of all-time. Texas only scored 16 in the 1st half because a TD was allowed when Young's knee was down for the supposed 2nd greatest offense of all-time (Texas averaged, AVERAGED 50 points a game that year.)
The halftime score with a Texas FG would've been 13-10.
Everyone simply remembers Young's heroics at the end but the game was the most evenly played game and that's why people loved it.
USC 1st Downs: 30
Texas 1st Downs: 30
USC Total Yards: 574
Texas Total Yards: 556
USC Penalties 5 for 30
Texas Penalties 4 for 34
Turnovers
USC - 2
Texas - 1
Difference in the game.
You're acting like the game was Baylor/Oklahoma or LSU/Bama/Auburn this year.
USC scored 10 points in the 1st half for the supposed greatest offense of all-time. Texas only scored 16 in the 1st half because a TD was allowed when Young's knee was down for the supposed 2nd greatest offense of all-time (Texas averaged, AVERAGED 50 points a game that year.)
The halftime score with a Texas FG would've been 13-10.
Everyone simply remembers Young's heroics at the end but the game was the most evenly played game and that's why people loved it.
USC 1st Downs: 30
Texas 1st Downs: 30
USC Total Yards: 574
Texas Total Yards: 556
USC Penalties 5 for 30
Texas Penalties 4 for 34
Turnovers
USC - 2
Texas - 1
Difference in the game.
This post was edited on 12/4/19 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 12/4/19 at 12:37 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
All offense seems apt for >1100 yards and 79 combined points. I had zero doubt that VY would score at the end, USC was playing walk-ons and an injured freshman Cushing
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