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Would a ridiculously high electricity bill be required to be disclosed as part of a sale?

Posted on 3/25/18 at 9:14 pm
Posted by cubsfan5150
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 3/25/18 at 9:14 pm
In Georgia

Do you think that a really high electricity bill (No known reason or fix) would be required to be disclosed prior to selling?

Ridiculously high as in average of $400 a month during the summer while keeping the house at 78 during the day, 75 over night.

2400 Sq ft house built in 96
This post was edited on 3/25/18 at 9:16 pm
Posted by dkreller
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Posted on 3/25/18 at 9:18 pm to
I’ve never heard of that.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 3/25/18 at 9:21 pm to
A smart buyer or agent ask to see the utility bills anyway but why would it need to be required?
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 3/25/18 at 9:26 pm to
quote:

Ridiculously high as in average of $400 a month during the summer while keeping the house at 78 during the day, 75 over night.

2400 Sq ft house built in 96

$6 bucks per square foot. to keep it what 10-20 degrees below temps in georgia during middle of summer?
Posted by cubsfan5150
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 3/25/18 at 9:26 pm to
Not sure if that would be considered a known defect, that's the reason that I'm asking.

Trying to sell my house and I was ignorant to the thought of asking for bill print outs prior to buying 5.5 years ago.
Posted by cwill
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Posted on 3/25/18 at 9:27 pm to
Negatory captain.
Posted by cubsfan5150
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 3/25/18 at 9:27 pm to
Yeah, probably 15-20. The entire cul-de-sac seems to be in the same boat
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
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Posted on 3/25/18 at 9:39 pm to
You can get an energy audit—testing of airflow, seals, doors, etc to determine what steps might increase your energy efficiency. Easiest thing: swap all light bulbs for LEDs, which generate almost no heat and use a tiny bit of electricity compared to other bulbs. Insulating draperies on west facing windows to reduce heat gain can also make a difference, as can a lighter exterior color, planting trees or shrubs to shade exposures wth greatest solar gain, and unplugging all of the vampire chargers plugged into your outlets.
Posted by GenesChin
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Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 3/25/18 at 10:35 pm to
quote:

Ridiculously high as in average of $400 a month during the summer while keeping the house at 78 during the day, 75 over night.


Wtf? I keep mine at 74-76, 69-70 at night

Power bill is at $180-200 at worst

quote:

2400 Sq ft house built in 96



2800sgft built 93
Posted by matthew25
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Posted on 3/25/18 at 10:45 pm to
By law in Mississippi, if you use a realtor, must disclose prior utility bills.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Posted on 3/26/18 at 11:26 am to
What are comparable houses in the same area doing as far as utility bills?

State law would dictate if it needs to be required. The only time I've bought a pre-owned house, I asked to see the bills .
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
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Posted on 3/26/18 at 11:26 am to
Are you trying to get murdered? Pretty sure this would be classified justifiable homicide
Posted by baldona
Florida
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Posted on 3/26/18 at 12:15 pm to
You honestly keep it that hot? 75 at night is pretty toasty most are closer to 70.

I would bet its pretty obvious why your electric bill is high, you are just used to some creature comforts and what not.

Do you have a pool? Do you have any shade trees on your house? What temp do you actually keep your house, how old is it, and how many units do you have? All kinds of questions, but I can tell you my bill can go from about $90 in say February if it's nice weather to $300 in the summer.

AC uses a lot of power.
Posted by Dirtman16
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 3/26/18 at 3:10 pm to
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No known reason or fix


While I sympathize with your situation, there's no way this is true. There is a reason, and likely a fix.

1) Do you have a very old and inefficient A/C unit or units? Is the refrigerant low?
2) Do you have insufficient insulation in the attic or in walls? Attic easier to fix obviously.
3) Are there any trees in your yard? Some strategically placed trees can take a lot of sun off your roof and exterior walls once they get larger.
4) Are you using incandescent bulbs everywhere?
5) Do you have an inefficient water heater that has a really high temp set point?
6) Is your thermostat accurate?
Posted by TDsngumbo
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Posted on 3/26/18 at 3:43 pm to
What the hell is wrong with your house for it to cost $400 a month to "cool" it to 78 during the day and 75 at night during the summer? Do you not have enough insulation in your attic or are your walls not insulated at all?

2400 sq ft is not that large and it was built in 1996 so it's not like it's an old house. As a potential buy, I would be extremely concerned with this.
This post was edited on 3/26/18 at 3:44 pm
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
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Posted on 3/26/18 at 4:33 pm to
quote:

What the hell is wrong with your house for it to cost $400 a month to "cool" it to 78 during the day and 75 at night during the summer?


Starting to wonder if he threw out the insulation or keeps windows open. I'd have done an energy audit well before that.

Posted by 756
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Posted on 3/26/18 at 7:21 pm to
The energy bill does not tell them what you set the thermostat-

For all they know you kept the temp at 65 in the summer
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 3/27/18 at 10:03 am to
In GA, I don't think they are required to disclose, but if they ask for them and you don't show them, it's probably going to kill the deal because they know you are hiding something. However, at one point some FHA and VA mortgage programs required these as part of underwriting your DTI ratio.

Also, $400/m in the heat of the summer isn't unheard of in Georgia. Mine peaked at $385 in August, 2600 sq ft also built in 96 (still running on the original outside units too.... I know I'm throwing away money, it's on the list to replace).

Screenshot of my usage, in metro ATL (I have gas heat, so very low power in cool months).

This post was edited on 3/27/18 at 10:11 am
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 3/27/18 at 1:27 pm to
quote:

still running on the original outside units too.... I know I'm throwing away money, it's on the list to replace


It pays for itself, it is a selling point for the home plus any expenses to maintain an older unit



You may also want to look at the insulation in your home if you are getting close to $400/month.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63897 posts
Posted on 3/27/18 at 1:39 pm to
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You may also want to look at the insulation in your home if you are getting close to $400/month.



Home is well insulated and has double paned windows.

It's just a large home with old AC units and a wife and kid who like to leave lights on and doors open.
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