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re: Who here has started their own business?

Posted on 5/9/18 at 3:29 pm to
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35614 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 3:29 pm to
Fair enough. I guess we all have different aspirations. I want to grow something that could take care of generations of my family. That's my drive. Then again, one of them could come along and screw up everything I built.

We're all paid for our expertise. Some more than others.
This post was edited on 5/9/18 at 3:30 pm
Posted by brian_wilson
Member since Oct 2016
3581 posts
Posted on 5/10/18 at 11:06 am to
quote:

I want to grow something that could take care of generations of my family. That's my drive. Then again, one of them could come along and screw up everything I built.


see my desire is to make enough money to just travel. although i don't have kids.

quote:

We're all paid for our expertise.

I don't believe that to be true. Some people are paid for other things - their work ethic, or who they know, or other things.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35614 posts
Posted on 5/10/18 at 11:37 am to
Talking about business owners. Most business owners should have expertise in their field.
Posted by brian_wilson
Member since Oct 2016
3581 posts
Posted on 5/10/18 at 12:19 pm to
I know a guy that owns a window washing business. He knew nothing about it getting into it, just did it. He does alright.

I know someone who opened a taqueria. White dude, accountant, never worked in a kitchen or a restaurant.

There are a lot of others like this too.

Posted by ATLdawg25
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2014
4370 posts
Posted on 5/10/18 at 1:12 pm to
idk why you would argue with VABuckeye...he has his own business, which means his experience demonstrates the way it must be done.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35614 posts
Posted on 5/10/18 at 2:51 pm to
Not true. I just believe that you should know what you do inside and out. We're all entitled to our views or are we not in this day and age?
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35614 posts
Posted on 5/10/18 at 2:53 pm to
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I know someone who opened a taqueria. White dude, accountant, never worked in a kitchen or a restaurant.


Then he has a good head on his shoulders because a restaurant is about as risky as it gets. I presume that he knew how to cook or was smart enough to hire a good cook, correct?

I think with your examples we are talking about completely different levels of businesses.

And it's all just discussion. That's what these boards are for right?

ETA: I'll readily admit that I can be heavy handed in my views when it's something I believe in. We all have our faults.
This post was edited on 5/10/18 at 2:57 pm
Posted by brian_wilson
Member since Oct 2016
3581 posts
Posted on 5/10/18 at 2:59 pm to
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Then he has a good head on his shoulders because a restaurant is about as risky as it gets. I presume that he knew how to cook or was smart enough to hire a good cook, correct?


honestly the whole situation is bizarre. All of his friends went what????

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I think with your examples we are talking about completely different levels of businesses.


I think we are talking about different types of business. I don't believe you have to be successful entrepreneur. As you mention before, you have to want it first and foremost.

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And it's all just discussion. That's what these boards are for right?


absolutely.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35614 posts
Posted on 5/10/18 at 3:05 pm to
Hey, if he's making the restaurant work then more power to him. Though I love to cook I don't think it's a business I'd be willing to dive into.

Well, maybe a little grill shack on an island where I have no competition. Then again, I might not have many customers either.
Posted by wiltznucs
Apollo Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2005
8973 posts
Posted on 5/10/18 at 8:40 pm to
Entrepreneur here....

Opened a Winery last year. Approaching our one year anniversary.

Previous life, Admin for a Fortune 500 Company with nearly 100 direct reports and a multi-million budget.

It’s been a crazy year. A crash course like no other. That said, it’s been amazing. There’s something very liberating about the idea that your financial well-being is directly tied to how hard you are willing to work. As opposed to how hard someone else thinks you work.

On the flip side, it’s been the most challenging year of my life. It’s easy to think that as a business owner you have no boss. The truth is, you have lots of bosses. They call themselves customers now.

All said, I can’t imagine going back. To that end, I can see why it’s not for everyone. It’s a lot of work.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
73209 posts
Posted on 5/10/18 at 8:44 pm to
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Opened a Winery last year.


where?
Posted by theicebox
Member since Oct 2017
710 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 5:52 am to
Sounds like this thread has some big dawgs weighing in,
I love the advice and the experiences shared so far.
Would love for this thread to continue.
Posted by Decisions
Member since Mar 2015
1491 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 6:53 am to
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Opened a Winery last year.


As a farmer, I'd love to hear some of the experiences and day to day work that goes into a winery. I've studied viniculture a fair bit in recent years and find it fascinating.
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14966 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 9:24 am to
quote:

theicebox
quote:

Sounds like this thread has some big dawgs weighing in,
I love the advice and the experiences shared so far.
Would love for this thread to continue.


We've got some pretty successful heavyweights around here on the MT. Dabigfella went and created his own slack channel with some crypto aficionados awhile back and sort've spun off a bootleg community of MT folks and I'm sure some other like-minded types. Wish they still contributed a bit as they bring some good perspective. I know dabigfella specifically had a string of businesses and had his hands in a coupla few different things within tthem that made for some unique insight.

But I agree that this thread is awesome. I think one of the big things for entrepreneurs is to spend time around other entrepreneurs. Not just at the Rotary Club or Chamber of Commerce or whatever. Just sitting down, eating lunch, or posting about our experiences like this.

A lot of guys are laser focused on their business and locked in to every detail. I think that's useful. But I also wonder if that level of sharp, tight focus sometimes prevents folks from scaling more quickly or as efficiently. Or maybe its worked perfectly for exactly that.

I just enjoy hearing different perspectives of folks who have done it many different ways. People at varying stages. Some successful, some still going uphill-some fast, some slow-and some who are at the top and still hungry for more.

Thanks for sharing, everyone.
This post was edited on 5/11/18 at 9:26 am
Posted by wiltznucs
Apollo Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2005
8973 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 11:53 am to
We’re actually located in downtown Tampa and as scale goes we are very small. We produce only a few thousand gallons per year. We are a fully licensed winery and do use grapes here and there; but, we specialize in a product called mead. A wine based with honey. Florida just isn’t well suited to viticulture. The largest expense and the lynchpin in our operation is honey. We don’t grow our own crops and work with local beekeepers and farmers to the extent possible.

As far as day to day activities, the majority of time is not spent making product. It’s actually spent cleaning. I tell people 95% of winemaking is doing dishes. Cleaning tanks, pumps and equipment seems like a never ending task. The rest is a lot like my corporate days. Sourcing product, working with suppliers and creating a production schedule. As you’d expect a lot of time is spent in reporting to the State & Fed for production taxes, etc.
Posted by DeboseKnows
Gainesville
Member since Dec 2012
1721 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 12:05 pm to
You got a generic email you can post up? I’d post mine but it’s my first and last name lol.

I’m in the somewhat in the viticulture business, dealing with infrastructure for growing, attend most the winery expos on the east Coast. I’ll stop by your place next time I’m around Tampa. And we can talk turkey as well.
Posted by Lawyers_Guns_Money
Member since Apr 2015
394 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 12:10 pm to
For those that made the leap, when did you do it and how did you prepare?

I am about to turn 30 and my intent is to make the leap at the beginning of next year. I'm doing everything I can to get my business started on the side today so that I have momentum when it is time to leave.

By that time I should have about $120k in cash to work with, so I will have several years of expenses (I am single) and additional $$ to pour into the business.

Interested to hear what steps others took.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35614 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 2:17 pm to
My story is interesting because I talked about being under capitalized as a big reason businesses fail.

We started our business on a deposit for a job. The company that gave us the deposit (a data center) loved our work and turned into our biggest client. We were very fortunate that they were excellent payers. Once I invoiced a job the money was in my bank account generally within two weeks. Obviously, companies like that are the exception and not the rule. However, I do still have a few clients that are very quick payers.

I don't know what type of business you want to start so it's a bit tough to give money advice. Is it inventory intensive? Money sitting on the shelves can hurt a company badly. Is it a service related company where you'll be selling yourself and your expertise or a pool of labor? I believe that Jose Vargas has a staffing company and from what I can tell he is doing very well.

My advice would be to be as lean as possible. Treat every dime at the beginning as if it's your last dime. Attend free networking events to get your name out there. Quote every job no matter how insignificant it may seem. Our biggest client came from a tiny job. In our business we always communicate with the other trades on the sites. We made some valuable allies that way.

We're heading into year 9 and we still don't have a space. I'm fortunate that one client allows me to use some of their space but that's rare and there's no need for us to ever meet clients at our "office" so it's not a big deal for us to go without a space.
Posted by MrJimBeam
Member since Apr 2009
12378 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 2:32 pm to
Many people in real estate didn't know anything before they got into it. You learn as you go and then can grow from there. I do understand the thought of being an expert in what you do. You become an expert.
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 2:57 pm to
I started my own micro business—it is profitable, and it fits into the margins of my work week around a PT professional job providing benefits. Not every business needs to be huge, nor does every business need to grow beyond your goals. It’s your business—so if XX monthly meets your needs, there is no reason to be chasing more if it doesn’t fit your overall plan.

Entrepreneurship comes in many forms—it doesn’t have to be your primary source of income to be consistently successful or profitable. I keep my little project small scale so it doesn’t overwhelm my work-life balance, and the profits fund my world travels.

Figure out what YOU want to do.....and build a business that makes you happy. Not everyone is trying to retire at 40, or earn enough for the next three generations. Some of us are working at various things to create opportunities in other areas of life.

IOW, bigger isn’t always better, and it is entirely possible to have a profitable, small-scale enterprise.
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