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re: What people don't consider when buying a house
Posted on 11/7/17 at 3:06 pm to LSUFanHouston
Posted on 11/7/17 at 3:06 pm to LSUFanHouston
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How old are the homes in your area?
Roughly 10 years or newer. Mone is 7 years old and there are house newer than 5 years in the neighborhood.
Posted on 11/7/17 at 3:19 pm to makersmark1
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Figure 1% per year for proper upkeep. So on a $300000 home that is $3000 per year. Also figure about $100 per 1000 square feet for utilities. Example: 2500 square foot house in south in August is at least $250 to cool.
Again, if you're talking about renting a house then maintenance/upkeep are built into your monthly payment. And you are paying the utilities. And more than likely you are responsible for the lawn. The cost is that of home ownership, plus a premium you're paying for someone else's risk, minus the possibility of being on the hook for a new A/C unit.
The only way you save significant money every month renting over buying is if you're in an apartment complex. Nobody is renting you a house that they bought for less than it costs to own.
Posted on 11/7/17 at 3:31 pm to YipSkiddlyDooo
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Nobody is renting you a house that they bought for less than it costs to own.
Sure, but that's not the calculation. The calculation is against market rents and market price for buying a home.
People often rent under market but over their costs, and in the right market, that may be better than owning. But way too many factors to go into that on a message board or special situations.
My brother was paying the same rent on his NO apartment from pre-Katrina (literally two weeks before) til he bought his condo in 2015 or so. I kinda wondered if he should have just kept paying rent.
This post was edited on 11/7/17 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 11/7/17 at 5:22 pm to CorkRockingham
Rent, young man, rent! I've never understood the inclination for a young man to buy a house when his career is just getting started - maintain your freedom.
Posted on 11/7/17 at 6:00 pm to cwill
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Rent, young man, rent! I've never understood the inclination for a young man to buy a house when his career is just getting started - maintain your freedom.
Had a 25 single just buy a 3/3.5 townhouse. Mortgage is 1400 and change. Rents out 2 other bedrooms upstairs for $500/mo and cuts bills in 1/3.
He feels pretty free.
Posted on 11/7/17 at 8:10 pm to ItNeverRains
I’d rather live with my parents than rent out two bedrooms.
I guess it depends on where you live whether it makes sense. Here in Memphis, it was an obvious choice to buy a condo rather than rent.
I guess it depends on where you live whether it makes sense. Here in Memphis, it was an obvious choice to buy a condo rather than rent.
Posted on 11/8/17 at 7:17 am to TheWalrus
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I’d rather live with my parents than rent out two bedrooms.
Congrats on loving your parents more than me. I'd rather have a couple buddies pay my mortgage, 2/3 of my bills, & live upstairs.
Posted on 11/8/17 at 9:04 am to ItNeverRains
This thread is always like a dog chasing its tail. The reality is no one can tell you how much you value you flexibility of not only changing cities but also changing communities within a city. This is where renting has a lot of value that is personally dependent.
In general, my advice is rent when young and not yet married but there are exceptions if someone knows they never want to leave a city or part of town.
In general, my advice is rent when young and not yet married but there are exceptions if someone knows they never want to leave a city or part of town.
Posted on 11/8/17 at 9:52 am to CorkRockingham
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How much your house appreciated and can be sold for is all market dependent.
I could get $100K over what I paid for my house in 2013 easily. We are lucky we bought when and where we did. Not all houses are "investments". They cost a lot of money to maintain
Posted on 11/8/17 at 10:55 am to ItNeverRains
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Had a 25 single just buy a 3/3.5 townhouse. Mortgage is 1400 and change. Rents out 2 other bedrooms upstairs for $500/mo and cuts bills in 1/3.
He feels pretty free.
I've got this one story...the salesman spiel.
Posted on 11/8/17 at 11:11 am to CorkRockingham
I've always heard that typically, if you aren't going to live in the same house for at least 10 years, you are better off renting. You are wasting a ton of money on the interest. I know you can write it off on taxes, but unless you are putting more towards your principal each month, you aren't knocking down the loan amount very much at all. My house payment is 1300 a month and I believe around $200 goes towards the principal and I'm over 3 years into the life of my mortgage. So 1100 a month just in interest and escrow.
Posted on 11/8/17 at 11:15 am to Triple Bogey
Do not forgot that as an owner, you can make the house your own and make it more "homely". Not important for most young men, but very important for women.
The key to renting or owning, is living under your means. If you rent at the top of your budget or buy a house and are house poor then you are more likely for it to be a poor investment.
But if you can manage to buy a house under your means when you are single and rent out a room to a roomate, or you rent a cheap place with a roomate or not you are saving your money.
There are very few places where renting and owning are similar. Usually you are better off doing one or the other, as in your money goes a lot further with one or the other. Big cities for instance you are usually better off renting a smaller place in a good location, small towns usually better off buying a small place then renting.
The key to renting or owning, is living under your means. If you rent at the top of your budget or buy a house and are house poor then you are more likely for it to be a poor investment.
But if you can manage to buy a house under your means when you are single and rent out a room to a roomate, or you rent a cheap place with a roomate or not you are saving your money.
There are very few places where renting and owning are similar. Usually you are better off doing one or the other, as in your money goes a lot further with one or the other. Big cities for instance you are usually better off renting a smaller place in a good location, small towns usually better off buying a small place then renting.
This post was edited on 11/8/17 at 11:17 am
Posted on 11/9/17 at 7:18 pm to Brian Wilson
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I can sell my house and net approx $50k right now.
From that perspective now is definitely not the time to buy, because you are probably going to be in the red for 3-5 years. You can still make a little money, if you are willing to buy a fixer-upper and actually fix it.
Otherwise you can expect renting to cost about 120% of what it would cost to own, but you are also saving money to put down on a better house when you do buy.
Posted on 11/9/17 at 9:11 pm to Brian Wilson
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can sell my house and net approx $50k right now...so there's that
That's great and often the case but real estate doesn't bat 100% and often people get upside down quick even w all that "equity" built in. Pros and Cons of each
Posted on 11/10/17 at 6:59 am to cwill
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I've got this one story...the salesman spiel
I've got more than one. I've got the flip side that didn't work as well. But anyone who deals in absolutes in real estate matters is overwhelmingly shortsighted and has no choice but to be wrong quite often.
Posted on 11/12/17 at 8:19 pm to CorkRockingham
According to Zillow.com, the house I am in now would rent for $1,000 more per month than a mortgage.
You're going to pay for property tax, regardless of whether renting or buying, so that's not a factor.
If you own, you decide what to pay for upkeep and maintenance. You can also be selective about how much to spend. If you rent, your landlord makes those decisions for you. When upkeep and maintenance is no longer cost effective your rent is increased. Either way, you're paying for upkeep and rent - just like property tax.
You're going to pay for property tax, regardless of whether renting or buying, so that's not a factor.
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and the amount of money spent in upkeep and maintenance, would that exceed the money wasted in renting?
If you own, you decide what to pay for upkeep and maintenance. You can also be selective about how much to spend. If you rent, your landlord makes those decisions for you. When upkeep and maintenance is no longer cost effective your rent is increased. Either way, you're paying for upkeep and rent - just like property tax.
Posted on 11/13/17 at 6:41 am to Willie Stroker
Buying a home is usually going to work out over the long term as the smarter, more effective return on your income. The tax write offs, natural appreciation and building equity aspects are far superior to anything else you’re going to spend your money on at that age.
In many cases the cost of living is equal to or < renting by comparison (many; not all).
What I think was touched on earlier is that this is usually a generational thing but it’s also dependent on what type of career you have. Lots of LSU Grads used to immediately move to TX (many still do). Buying fresh out of college with a degree that dictates travel many not be the smart move.
But I also mentioned generational as others did. Many Millenials think of owning a home as being a ton of work. So is setting up and managing your retirement. So is saving up for a down payment. So is managing a property to rent. So is running a business. Any undertaking in the real world will require a certain level of not only financial, but time commitment as well.
Millenials have a distaste for that. They value a frictionless situation where they can easily pack up and move from place to place. It’s far more about them than about an investment. Which compared to renting, home ownership is always a superior option to.
So do what makes you happy, but just remember...with few anecdotal exceptions, home owning is almost always a superior ROI to whatever you’d be spending the differential in renting on each month.
It pays off annually and long term, and even renting using a property management company can yield monthly benefits via passive income and still allow tax write offs and equity building.
In many cases the cost of living is equal to or < renting by comparison (many; not all).
What I think was touched on earlier is that this is usually a generational thing but it’s also dependent on what type of career you have. Lots of LSU Grads used to immediately move to TX (many still do). Buying fresh out of college with a degree that dictates travel many not be the smart move.
But I also mentioned generational as others did. Many Millenials think of owning a home as being a ton of work. So is setting up and managing your retirement. So is saving up for a down payment. So is managing a property to rent. So is running a business. Any undertaking in the real world will require a certain level of not only financial, but time commitment as well.
Millenials have a distaste for that. They value a frictionless situation where they can easily pack up and move from place to place. It’s far more about them than about an investment. Which compared to renting, home ownership is always a superior option to.
So do what makes you happy, but just remember...with few anecdotal exceptions, home owning is almost always a superior ROI to whatever you’d be spending the differential in renting on each month.
It pays off annually and long term, and even renting using a property management company can yield monthly benefits via passive income and still allow tax write offs and equity building.
Posted on 11/13/17 at 7:26 am to CorkRockingham
Something small to think about (off topic): where does the sun set in relation to your house? Most houses I have seen have big back windows. Well, if the back of your house faces west, then every afternoon the sun will be basting in through those windows. You end up closing curtains and blinds and now those nice back windows that provide a view don't really provided any thing at all. This also makes using the backyard in the afternoons good, but maybe not great, as you would be getting all the sun.
Posted on 11/13/17 at 12:44 pm to CorkRockingham
Most people don't consider their new neighbors when buying a house. If you end up with horrible neighbors (like a couple of my friends have, different situations), then you end up wishing you had the flexibility of being a renter.
Might not be what this thread is about but just thought I'd answer the subject line of the post.
Might not be what this thread is about but just thought I'd answer the subject line of the post.
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