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re: Voyager - VYGVF Due Diligence

Posted on 6/22/22 at 12:33 pm to
Posted by Shankopotomus
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Posted on 6/22/22 at 12:33 pm to
now this is what you do with your wild man gambling funds ... try and make a bet on who is going to survive crypto winter

all these crypto lenders are in deep shite
Posted by 21JumpStreet
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 6/22/22 at 12:45 pm to
Nexo and FTX seems to be the only ones that are good right now.
Posted by Shankopotomus
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Posted on 6/22/22 at 12:48 pm to
well for good or bad - FTX is in with large institutional players and has basically become one in their own right

ANYthing else is a mystery right now - considering the government thought "sub prime" was contained in 2007-2008 and then it blew up --- this industry has FAR LESS disclosure and regulation so who really knows ....
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 7/1/22 at 7:28 pm to
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Once the institutions start buying stock in Voyager, we will never see these prices again.


Welp, here we are again.
Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 7/1/22 at 7:47 pm to
Yep this one is going to zero. Not sure why anyone would trust any of these exchanges. Including Coinbase
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
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Posted on 7/1/22 at 7:49 pm to
Coinbase didn’t leverage like Voyager & Cel to offer such rates.
Posted by UltimaParadox
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Posted on 7/1/22 at 8:01 pm to
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Coinbase didn’t leverage like Voyager & Cel to offer such rates.


Coinbase is also losing massive amounts of money. Currently over 3B in debt and having their credit downgraded. Good thing for them they have plenty of customer "assets" to access to pay off debt in these extraordinary circumstances. Just need to halt withdrawals like everyone else.

I do not believe they will go bankrupt tomorrow, but I'm sure revenue is down massively and they were already losing money.
Posted by castorinho
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 7/1/22 at 8:03 pm to
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I'm never going to get cred like Ancient Tiger if y'all keep bumping this thread.

Good for you for not running away from this
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9956 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 8:06 pm to
I don’t know. They survived the last one. But yea, No reason to keep coins on the exchange unless actively trading.
Posted by tenderfoot tigah
Red Stick
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 7/2/22 at 3:11 pm to
Voyager was my worst investment in my life and a few of you guys have mentioned to me that you lost even more $ than me. It's horrible that this is happening to us, but there is a chance Voyager allows people to transfer money off the platform. If they do, we need to be ready to sieze the opportunity.

From here on out, we only keep our crypto in personal wallets. We will not make the same mistake twice.

We have the largest crypto launch in years upcoming and we will get our $ back in spades, but this one is still a killer.

Let's continue to work together and grind day in and day out to help each other get ahead in life.
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4292 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 3:35 pm to
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No reason to keep coins on the exchange unless actively trading.


My initial interest has been in trading opportunities. So apart from Coinbase (about which I’ve heard less than stellar reviews), what exchanges do the active traders in here suggest?

I began analyzing trading opportunities in BITI vs. BITO last week. But as far as the actual underlyings (let’s say, the “majors”), who is using what… and why?
Posted by tenderfoot tigah
Red Stick
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 7/2/22 at 4:07 pm to
It's more expensive to trade on CEXes than on DEXes.
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4292 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 5:20 pm to
Trading fees are one issue. But the more important issues (to me) would be trade execution, pricing (bid/ask spreads) and security.
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 5:34 pm to
Slingshot

Get your funds to one of:
Polygon, Arbitrum, BSC, Optimism

And use slingshot.
Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
13385 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 5:37 pm to
FTX
Posted by tenderfoot tigah
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Member since Sep 2004
11507 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 6:38 pm to
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Trading fees are one issue. But the more important issues (to me) would be trade execution, pricing (bid/ask spreads) and security.



The answer is still dexes. Uniswap for Ethereum's network. Pancakeswap for BNB. Orca for Solana. Trader Joe for AVAX.

Kep your coins out of exchanges.
Posted by tenderfoot tigah
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Posted on 7/2/22 at 6:38 pm to
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FTX


Did you learn nothing from the liquidations?
Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
13385 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 6:57 pm to
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Did you learn nothing from the liquidations?

Dude he’s focused on execution and spreads and you are recommending AMMs like pancakeswap

I know there’s peak fear about insolvency right now (deservedly so) but FTX is fine. They are flush with capital which is why they are in a position to bail out half the industry
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 7:01 pm to
That's why I recommended Slingshot. Its designed to be a decentralized exchange (but not AMM)
Posted by tenderfoot tigah
Red Stick
Member since Sep 2004
11507 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 10:21 pm to
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Dude he’s focused on execution and spreads and you are recommending AMMs like pancakeswap

I know there’s peak fear about insolvency right now (deservedly so) but FTX is fine. They are flush with capital which is why they are in a position to bail out half the industry


Good luck. Not your keys not your coins.
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