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re: Timeshare advice
Posted on 9/23/11 at 9:08 am to Bmath
Posted on 9/23/11 at 9:08 am to Bmath
my parents have an RCI timeshare and we can buy guest weeks at different resorts for $350 for a 2 bedroom for a week. my parents have 4 kids so it was worth it for them to buy in (they bought Orlando but have gone to Hawaii every other year mostly) and allow us to all have family vacations for $350 a year.
Posted on 9/23/11 at 9:12 am to Costanza
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Is no one else seeing the humor of a guy named "broke" discussing what he sees as the positives of time shares.
Posted on 9/23/11 at 9:27 am to Bmath
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The real issue I see is that by the time you are finished financing it for ten years with a 11.5% APR, you end up basically doubling the initial cost.
Why isn't this a deal breaker for you? You said you wanted to go once every other year - so 5 times over that 10 year period. So divide every dime of the 10 year cost by the number of days you'll actually use it during that 10 year period.
Consider the alternative of putting the same amount of money (not just the monthly note), into an investment account. If you have to do the Disney thing, then also get a Disney Rewards credit card and use the rewards it earns to offset the costs of paying for your vacation at a hotel of your choosing every 2 years out of the savings (with interest YOU keep) of your own. This ensures that no one gets rich off of you. Your money stays with you. I guarantee you'll come out better in the long term, with fewer commitments and greater flexibility. They would not be offering you this deal if they did not believe that it was a better deal for them. You should make your own better deal instead.
Your wife may like Disney now, but another couple of repetitions through the same damn thing may change that quickly. Wives are fickle creatures.
Divorce rates are also high. Since you don't know what the future holds, keep your financial obligations to assets that are more liquid than a timeshare.
Posted on 9/23/11 at 10:57 am to Willie Stroker
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Your wife may like Disney now, but another couple of repetitions through the same damn thing may change that quickly.
i was concerned about that also but it has not affected us in 13 years as members. we go all the time. never gets old. also, How can it really when they have so much to offer all over the globe? They have cruises also.
This post was edited on 9/23/11 at 11:03 am
Posted on 9/23/11 at 11:00 am to Broke
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I think I pay around $300 or so.
i have way more points than you plus one of my home resorts is so hard to get in to it jacks up the annual fees also. so of course i will pay quite alot more than you. simple math.
Posted on 9/23/11 at 3:52 pm to Fat Bastard
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ever gets old. also, How can it really when they have so much to offer all over the globe? They have cruises also.
So you're looking forward to getting stuck with the Disney timeshare crowd on even more vacations for the rest of your life? Aren't you tempted to diversify your social contacts a bit more than being limited to this crowd?
It'll be like taking folks drawn to Branson, Missouri or Carnival Cruiseline with you every time you want to get away.
Posted on 9/23/11 at 4:01 pm to Bmath
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Has anyone bought into time shares through RCI? Is there anything to worry about?
My wife has been wanting to get a Disney timeshare (partnered through RCI) since our honeymoon in January. She got her first full time job this summer, and I have two years left in my doctoral program. Thus we currently have enough to afford a basic package. However, I'm trying to figure out how worth it having a timeshare really is.
I talked with a booking agent today, and I seem pretty convinced that it will be worthwhile. If we open a deed for 50pts we get 4-5 nights off peak season, and 3 nights during peak. The other nice feature is that unused points roll over for one year, and you can steal points from the next year. Also, you are able to travel anywhere with the RCI system.
So for 5K split over 10 years for a 45 year lease, I feel that this is a very good deal. However, I was wondering if anyone was aware of any hidden issues to look out for?
Not reading all that. All I can say is I can't see any reason for buying a timeshare anywhere except for the secondary market. They still trade at pennies on the dollar from what I understand.
Posted on 9/23/11 at 5:50 pm to Willie Stroker
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So you're looking forward to getting stuck with the Disney timeshare crowd on even more vacations for the rest of your life?
darn i was stuck on that ship with all those people who had cruised before! how terrible!
This post was edited on 9/23/11 at 5:58 pm
Posted on 9/23/11 at 5:54 pm to Bmath
This being the first big purchase of a new marriage and 1 out of 2 careers sounds frigging retarded to me. Timeshares in general are stupid, but at this stage in your life, it's almost laughable.
Posted on 9/23/11 at 6:05 pm to Costanza
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Timeshares in general are stupid,
many are. but mine and broke's has unreal flexibility. you are not stuck in one resort like so many. you can exchange out and go anywhere and do most anything with ours. mine has paid for itself a few times over. costs way more to stay where we stay as a non-member. not even close.
Sorry for timesharing
Posted on 9/23/11 at 10:34 pm to Costanza
This is why I ask. I am 26, married in January, and I'm still not making real money for two more years until I finish. Part of me sees it as an investment for the rest of our lives.
You don't understand my wife. If I wasn't Catholic, we would have been married IN Disney World. I have a tower of freaking Disney Snow globes in my bedroom. I'm just trying to see what advantages/disadvantages there really are. I am a biology guy, not a numbers guy. My wife and I had talked about maybe buying in now, and paying it off in just a couple of years. We had also thought about buying more points at a different hotel in a few years.
The one thing that people don't seem to realize is that this gives you stays at the "deluxe" hotels which are far more expensive. However, it still may not make much financial sense. I also apologize for not searching, but I was hoping to get some personalized responses.
You don't understand my wife. If I wasn't Catholic, we would have been married IN Disney World. I have a tower of freaking Disney Snow globes in my bedroom. I'm just trying to see what advantages/disadvantages there really are. I am a biology guy, not a numbers guy. My wife and I had talked about maybe buying in now, and paying it off in just a couple of years. We had also thought about buying more points at a different hotel in a few years.
The one thing that people don't seem to realize is that this gives you stays at the "deluxe" hotels which are far more expensive. However, it still may not make much financial sense. I also apologize for not searching, but I was hoping to get some personalized responses.
Posted on 9/23/11 at 11:20 pm to Bmath
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My wife has been wanting to get a Disney timeshare (partnered through RCI) since our honeymoon in January. She got her first full time job this summer, and I have two years left in my doctoral program. Thus we currently have enough to afford a basic package. However, I'm trying to figure out how worth it having a timeshare really is.
I looked into this back in February. I'm against timeshares in general, but DVC does it right in comparison to the rest of the industry.
After mulling it over, I decided I did not want to take cash out of the bank to pay for the "buy-in" fee, plus I didn't want to commit to a 40 + year lease. Too many things can change in that period of time and I didn't want to risk losing that much of my "investment."
It just wasn't for me, but it could easily be for you.
Posted on 9/24/11 at 7:22 am to madamsquirrel
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they bought Orlando but have gone to Hawaii every other year mostly)
AND that....is the key word also here. As long as you use it at least every other year you will get your money's worth , I know at least with DVC that is. If you do not like to travel or do things at destinations they offer then it is not worth it.
Posted on 9/24/11 at 7:31 am to Bmath
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I am 26, married in January, and I'm still not making real money for two more years until I finish.
I bought in when i was 28.
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talked about maybe buying in now, and paying it off in just a couple of years.
good idea IF you can. If not keep using the monthly financing they have provided you. no rush.
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We had also thought about buying more points at a different hotel in a few years.
You can do that as well. we have also and have two home resorts now. Look, my opinion is get all your other financial stuff straight FIRST, do NOT rush into this, then when you are ready you can buy in if it is for you. Worst case scenario buy 100 points and if you do not like it then sell it. You may have to sell a little under what you paid(worst case scenario) but it is not like losing your behind in other investment vehicles. Then again, you may break even or even make a profit but do not count on it. We have sold a week at a time when we could not make it. works out great getting rent money for what we already basically paid off. Different resorts have different annual fees. that is the biggest question you need to ask. Even once it is paid off you will always have annual fees for upkeep and maintenance. Ask about them UP FRONT.
This post was edited on 9/24/11 at 7:42 am
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