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re: Time to go longer duration?

Posted on 10/30/23 at 2:56 pm to
Posted by Free888
Member since Oct 2019
2431 posts
Posted on 10/30/23 at 2:56 pm to
Buying TIPS. Currentl real yields are 2.5%, meaning they’ll beat inflation by that amount. If you think rates will stay up, then that’s the play. If you think we’re looking at 0%, then nominals are the way to go. I’m personally moving most of my bond allocation to TIPS.

ETA: building a 25 to 30 year ladder, there’s a gap in TIPS 2034-2039, so filling that on the long end.
This post was edited on 10/30/23 at 2:59 pm
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11637 posts
Posted on 10/30/23 at 3:12 pm to
You are smarter than just about every pension manager in the country. They’d all be set for the rest of their careers putting everything in TIPS right now.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
16832 posts
Posted on 10/30/23 at 10:03 pm to
Do we begin running into demand problems with the amount of bonds we’re having to sell/roll over? With the Fed trying to reduce their balance sheet, foreign countries reducing their Treasuries and continuing $T deficits when does the demand for T Bonds start to become a problem?
This post was edited on 10/30/23 at 10:11 pm
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
36931 posts
Posted on 10/30/23 at 10:07 pm to
quote:

Do we begin running into demand problems with the amount of bonds we’re having to sell/roll over? With deficits like this, the Fed trying to reduce their balance sheet, foreign countries reducing their Treasuries and continuing $T deficits when does the demand for T Bonds start to become a problem?
Everyone is anxiously awaiting for the usually boring Treasury "quarterly refunding statement", as it's been hinted that there are some changes coming. My best guess is they are going to talk about moving away from being so front-loaded on the curve. It's utterly as many of us were screaming to issue 50-100 year bonds when that probably could have been done for 3% and under.
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11637 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 8:06 pm to
I am grateful for their frick up. Compound interest is fun when it’s risk free.
Posted by CAPEX
Member since Dec 2022
918 posts
Posted on 11/2/23 at 12:01 pm to
Right now, firms I've been speaking with are operating a bar bell approach where they're seeing opportunities at both the short and long-end while remaining neutral on duration overall.

Going to wait a few months before adding duration by increasing exposure to EM sovereign credit and reducing EM corporate credit exposure.

Right now, there's lots of uncertainty where interest rates are going and I don't want to be caught out with high duration just in case.
This post was edited on 11/2/23 at 12:06 pm
Posted by Warfox
B.R. Native (now in MA)
Member since Apr 2017
3546 posts
Posted on 11/2/23 at 5:12 pm to
Fortunately I moved most of my stocks to TIPS before any of the haircuts occurred, so I was spared those losses.

I’m in TIPS, CD’s, and little cash in “high-yield” savings account.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
16832 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 8:53 am to
With the jobs numbers this morning it seems Iike the chances of any further rate hikes are diminishing.

Also, help me understand the TIPs play. It seems like for us to get another inflation surge it would need to occur if the FED begins lowering rates again…which will probably only happen in the face of an economic downturn…which would be deflationary. What am I missing?
This post was edited on 11/3/23 at 9:00 am
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