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re: tax question - gambling

Posted on 5/13/12 at 6:23 pm to
Posted by BFIV
Virginia
Member since Apr 2012
9013 posts
Posted on 5/13/12 at 6:23 pm to
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As long as you don't get caught, you're golden. If you do, and that is a possibility, although I can't assign a percentage to it, you face tax evasion and money laundering charges. You have to ask yourself if avoiding a few thousand dollars in taxes is worth it.



This...
Posted by Walt OReilly
Poplarville, MS
Member since Oct 2005
124694 posts
Posted on 5/13/12 at 7:13 pm to
thanks
Posted by Stanky Legg
Member since Sep 2010
4052 posts
Posted on 5/13/12 at 7:37 pm to
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Nah, it's all online


Where are you playing online that still allows US players?

How do you deposit your funds? Bank transfer?
Posted by Stanky Legg
Member since Sep 2010
4052 posts
Posted on 5/13/12 at 7:41 pm to
quote:

bodog, merge network


I checked bodog a couple of days ago and got a "This domain name has been seized by the US Dept of Justice" message.

Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
46163 posts
Posted on 5/14/12 at 8:12 am to
It's no longer bodog - it's bovada


My visa CC worked fine on both sites and both have a great reputation of fast payouts.
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 5/14/12 at 2:29 pm to
Are you a professional poker player? If so, then you would report your poker playing activies on Sch. C. If you are not a professioan lpoker player, then you wuld report your net winnings from gambling as Other Income on Line 21 of Form 1040.
Posted by SippyCup
Gulf Coast
Member since Sep 2008
7021 posts
Posted on 5/14/12 at 4:31 pm to
Line 21 on the 1040 Other Income.....Unless your a professional gambler.
This post was edited on 5/14/12 at 4:32 pm
Posted by Forgiving Morgan
GUMP MODE: [ON] OFF
Member since Nov 2010
453 posts
Posted on 5/14/12 at 7:27 pm to
The penalties for claiming dissallowed deductions are far less than than the penalties for hiding revenue. The CPA's on here can correct me if I'm wrong, but I would declare any money recieved and deduct the losses.

Dissallowed deductions = paying back in with interest and penalties

Tax Evasion = time served

Not a chance I would be willing to take.
Posted by homeskillet
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2011
225 posts
Posted on 5/14/12 at 9:34 pm to
You have 2 options:

Option 1: Declare yourself as a pro. Advantage is you can claim your losses. Disadvantage, you are all but guaranteed an audit. You can never switch back, so you will always be an IRS target. I think you also pay a higher rate.

Option 2: Don't declare yourself as a pro and you must claim all earnings, regardless of your losses. So if you cashed out for 100 bucks this year, but lost a grand trying to get that one cash out, you claim extra income of 100 bucks. Advantage, no IRS.

Source: years of browsing poker forums and online play. twoplustwo.com is an excellent resource. I would recommend checking there over here for advice in that realm. There are legit posters there that know the ins and outs of the life.
Posted by kfizzle85
Member since Dec 2005
22022 posts
Posted on 5/14/12 at 10:09 pm to
A shame its factually incorrect tho.
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
46163 posts
Posted on 5/14/12 at 10:20 pm to
I'm on 2+2 daily, thanks for the info.


Also, there aren't any losses since you play well inside of your bankroll. It is all pure profit. What would be the threshold to declare yourself as a professional?
This post was edited on 5/14/12 at 10:29 pm
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 5/14/12 at 10:52 pm to
quote:

What would be the threshold to declare yourself as a professional?


If you are serious, you already know this is the wrong place to ask.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105437 posts
Posted on 5/14/12 at 11:26 pm to
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Also, there aren't any losses since you play well inside of your bankroll.


It's not quite that simple. I'll use horse racing, since that's what I'm familiar with. Say over the course of the year, you make $1000 worth of bets and come out $100 ahead. Instead of declaring $100 in income, you're supposed to declare $1100 in winnings and offset it with $1000 in losses, and you'd better have it documented in case of audit (not as hard as it sounds, the online site I uses keeps track of all that for me.)

Not sure how that translates to poker, I assume they don't expect you to record every winning and losing hand. Possibly by session, though.
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 5/15/12 at 7:58 am to
quote:

What would be the threshold to declare yourself as a professional?

There is no specific threshold. The issue is whether you are conducting a trade or business, or are you engaging in a hobby? You can deduct the ordinary and necessary expenses incurred in a business such that it results in deductible net loss. You cannot deduct a net loss from a hobby.

Note, if you are a professional, then your income from your profession is subject to self-employment taxes. Income from a hobby is not.
Posted by hawkeye007
Member since Feb 2010
6297 posts
Posted on 5/15/12 at 3:37 pm to
buy a safe put the cash in the safe problem solved.
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
46163 posts
Posted on 5/16/12 at 10:44 am to
Thanks guys, I guess i need to give it some more time and see how everything turns out.


Anyways, for anyone who is looking to get back into poker, here's some promising news:

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