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re: Soooo like.. What does $TSLA do tomorrow?

Posted on 12/20/20 at 3:59 pm to
Posted by TheWalkoff
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Posted on 12/20/20 at 3:59 pm to
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Posted by thatguy777
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Posted on 12/20/20 at 7:14 pm to
It’s pretty amazing how people have been so wrong about Tesla and just can’t handle the success the company and TSLA stock have had. It’s bound to go to 0 soon...
Posted by southernelite
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 12/20/20 at 7:21 pm to
Tesla joining the S&P is a prime case of careful what you wish for. It’s volatility will get crushed and it will bleed down. The days of gaming Tesla’s call option chain are over.

Full Disclosure: Not short currently but have in the past. Also been long at times.
This post was edited on 12/20/20 at 7:24 pm
Posted by FlyFisherman
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 12/21/20 at 12:36 am to
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Their revenues were $9B in Q3. This year, credits made up roughy 7% of revenue.


Revenue and profit are not the same thing though I think we all know that now don’t we?

The fact is, that no, without selling credits, Tesla would not have been profitable, he is correct.
Posted by TheWalkoff
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Posted on 12/21/20 at 7:15 am to
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Posted by southernelite
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Posted on 12/21/20 at 8:09 am to
How much of Tesla’s Capex is funded by profits and how much is funded by shareholder diluting capital raises?
Posted by jmarto1
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Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 12/21/20 at 9:15 am to
I wish we would get a spacex ipo. It would be another stock that goes to the moon and people complain about
Posted by TheWalkoff
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Posted on 12/21/20 at 9:40 am to
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Posted by go ta hell ole miss
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Posted on 12/21/20 at 10:05 am to
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Their revenues were $9B in Q3. This year, credits made up roughy 7% of revenue.


Revenues are not profits. They had $311 million in profits. They had $397 million in credits. They have not had any profits in the last year without credits.

I am not shorting it. The stock is not a stock that can be shorted by me because there is no logic to it. I expect it to continue to go up, so I have no desire to short it.
This post was edited on 12/21/20 at 10:09 am
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 12/21/20 at 10:07 am to
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The term used was “making money”. I interpreted that as revenue.


Seriously. So if a company has revenue of a dollar and expenses of $10 you think that company is making money? I have never heard anyone think that way. I’ll refine the question. By making money, I mean profits, not revenue.
This post was edited on 12/21/20 at 10:09 am
Posted by Wraytex
San Antonio - Gonzales
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 12/21/20 at 10:10 am to
It would be the first company to live up to both sides of the cliche.
Posted by FinleyStreet
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 12/21/20 at 10:17 am to
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The term used was “making money”. I interpreted that as revenue.


If you don't understand the difference between revenue and profits you should probably press the pause button on investing in single stocks. I'm honestly not trying to be rude.

Posted by TheWalkoff
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 12/21/20 at 12:36 pm to
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Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 12/21/20 at 2:22 pm to
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The stock is not a stock that can be shorted by me because there is no logic to it.


There is logic to it though. The people buying shares do not have price or value requirements for the equity there's inelastic demand for shares of a stock with low float. For shareholders (like Cathy Woods) the narrative is more important than price.
This post was edited on 12/21/20 at 2:23 pm
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
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Member since May 2013
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Posted on 12/22/20 at 9:33 am to
quote:

The term used was “making money”. I interpreted that as revenue.


In financial terms, making money is being profitable (vs losing money).

Just saw this visual and found it interesting (courtesy of Axios). Tesla has shipped only half a million cars this year apparently.

Posted by DVinBR
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 12/22/20 at 10:46 am to
...but Tesla is more than cars right?
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 12/22/20 at 10:54 am to
Well ya. Robotaxis. I can't wait until my car can make me money while I'm in the office.
Posted by Hazelnut
Member since May 2011
16462 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 11:00 am to
I'm no expert by any means, but what intrigues me about Tesla is their ability to raise capital relative to their peers. Add in the fact that electric cars are not going anywhere and are only going to become more and more normal as time goes on, and I like their ability to stay ahead of the other companies in that movement. It all hinges on them continuing to grow their sales over time. But, I think that is a realistic possibility.

If my logic is flawed I'd be happy to hear counter points so I can learn more
Posted by TheWalkoff
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Posted on 12/22/20 at 11:30 am to
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Posted by Triple Bogey
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Posted on 1/8/21 at 3:04 pm to
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