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re: Solar Power Incentives in Louisiana: State & Federal..
Posted on 5/27/13 at 10:52 pm to League Champs
Posted on 5/27/13 at 10:52 pm to League Champs
Building a new house with 10kw solar. Roof maintenence/repair issue minimized by installing metal roof.
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Posted on 5/27/13 at 10:56 pm to islandtiger
Nice. Is the initial cost being rolled into the mortgage?
How much are they charging for the install? $35K?
How much are they charging for the install? $35K?
Posted on 5/27/13 at 11:08 pm to LSUAlum2001
Still working with contractor with design, but estimate is about $2,500 to $3,000 per kw so $25,000 to $30,000. Looking to pay cash for most/all of construction but considering a mortgage due to rates. If we go the mortgage route, solar would be part of construction loan.
Posted on 5/28/13 at 12:43 am to Captain Ron
Read up on SolarCity. It's an interesting business model that I've been trying to further understand for my own reasons.
Posted on 5/28/13 at 9:16 am to islandtiger
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Still working with contractor with design, but estimate is about $2,500 to $3,000 per kw so $25,000 to $30,000
Do you have roof dimensions of your house plans? Send them to the email address I posted in the OP and I'll see if I can help you get a better deal.
Are you letting the electrical contractor install the panels and the roofing contractor install the roof mounts?
Posted on 5/28/13 at 9:50 am to Powerman
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But you aren't buying it at full price...hence his point.
Somebody is confused.
When you buy the electricity from the power company you ALWAYS pay full price.
The subsidy is for the equipment to let you generate your own.
Posted on 5/28/13 at 10:07 am to League Champs
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And what about dismantling and reassembly due to the need for a new roof?
My neighborhood has a large number of solar installations, many have been installed for several years now, leaking and damaged roofs from improper installation of the solar panels is starting to be a problem.
Posted on 5/28/13 at 10:14 am to Meauxjeaux
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Somebody is confused.
That person is you
1) You get $20,000 from your neighbors, so that you can also get paid to produce energy
2) When your crappy system doesnt provide enough power, you want to pull from the grid (with my $20,000 still in your pocket) and act like theres nothing to see here
Conclusion: You want solar power, pay for it with your own dollars.
Addendum: We know you wont, because you know that you can never get RoI. So stop acting like its the coming thing
Posted on 5/28/13 at 10:23 am to League Champs
Did you all read what the PSC guy said?
Apparently not.
Buying power from the power company at retail price is not 'pulling from the grid' as you say it - as if it's some shady scheme to slip some energy into your house under the table.
Liberalism is a disease, fight it bro.
Apparently not.
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2) When your crappy system doesnt provide enough power, you want to pull from the grid (with my $20,000 still in your pocket) and act like theres nothing to see here
Buying power from the power company at retail price is not 'pulling from the grid' as you say it - as if it's some shady scheme to slip some energy into your house under the table.
Liberalism is a disease, fight it bro.
Posted on 5/28/13 at 10:23 am to League Champs
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1) You get $20,000 from your neighbors, so that you can also get paid to produce energy
More like your neighbors paying $0.00625 per $25,000 installation in state taxes and $0.00005 per $25,000 installation in federal taxes.
At least a system like this is going to people who are paying taxes. Not many welfare recipients are jumping to install modules on their government housing.
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2) When your crappy system doesnt provide enough power
You're not paying for a complete off-the-grid system here. You're reducing the power you pull off the grid (i.e. pay for), which can be anywhere from a 30% to 70% reduction; depending on your monthly household power consumption. BTW this is happening during peak hours which will actually benefits the utility because it reduces the amount of power they have to provide during the hot-assed summer days. Also, the power you are sending back is of higher quality than what the utility provides.
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Addendum: We know you wont, because you know that you can never get RoI. So stop acting like its the coming thing
I think someone already posted that they installed a system at their parents house which will have a ROI of 5 years, AND have backup power via batteries during utility outages.
This post was edited on 5/28/13 at 10:35 am
Posted on 5/28/13 at 11:03 am to Captain Ron
The supporting documentation required for the Louisiana credit is nothing to sneeze at. One requirement is the name and license number of the contractor who does the installation. LINK
You can get around the $12,500 limit per system by installing multiple small systems instead of a single large system. You just have to make sure each system stays under $25,000 total cost.
You can get around the $12,500 limit per system by installing multiple small systems instead of a single large system. You just have to make sure each system stays under $25,000 total cost.
Posted on 5/28/13 at 11:50 am to Captain Ron
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Not many welfare recipients are jumping to install modules on their government housing.
Welfare is welfare. Doesnt matter who the recipient is
Govt doesnt get to pick the winners and losers. Solar gets subsidies, oil and coal get carbon taxed. Sorry thats wrong.
Posted on 5/28/13 at 2:02 pm to League Champs
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Govt doesnt get to pick the winners and losers.
What government are you talking about?
Posted on 5/28/13 at 2:29 pm to ThisWayChad
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Govt doesnt get to pick the winners and losers.
What government are you talking about?
Well, to be technical, he's right.
You see many government winners out there?
Posted on 5/28/13 at 5:33 pm to League Champs
It all depends on your definition of subsidy. Not paying the full cost for air and water contamination by many industries might be considered a subsidy (I.e., not internalizing the externalities). Billions in military spending spent keeping the Middle East "stable" and producing oil, might be considered a subsidy., etc.
Posted on 5/28/13 at 5:38 pm to Captain Ron
We are building on an island in Washington state...probably out of your service area! We are using a contractor who specializes in green construction (several builder of the year and US Dept of Energy awards) so feel pretty confident we will get a fair price. I will post the final estimates for solar when we get them and you guys can tell me if we are being treated fairly.
Posted on 5/28/13 at 6:02 pm to Powerman
self-moderated.
Wrong board. lol
Wrong board. lol
This post was edited on 5/28/13 at 6:44 pm
Posted on 5/29/13 at 9:49 am to Asgard Device
At least in La there is sun to be had. In California they had a similar solar subsidy program, and on a per capita basis it was most popular in San Francisco. Which gets sun roughly 25 days a year.
There was a minor uproar about this because, obviously, it'd have been a lot more efficient for those wealthy SF'ers to pay the money to rednecks out in the Central Valley, where they get sun approximately 363 brutal days a year, to install them on their houses. But of course no one would do that because a solar panel isn't just a solar panel, it's an outward and visible manifestation of the fact that you are the Right Kind of Person. Mt 6:2, etc.
There was a minor uproar about this because, obviously, it'd have been a lot more efficient for those wealthy SF'ers to pay the money to rednecks out in the Central Valley, where they get sun approximately 363 brutal days a year, to install them on their houses. But of course no one would do that because a solar panel isn't just a solar panel, it's an outward and visible manifestation of the fact that you are the Right Kind of Person. Mt 6:2, etc.
Posted on 5/29/13 at 10:40 am to Cold Cous Cous
Pretty sure the state is doing away with or limiting the credit substantially for 2013.
Posted on 5/29/13 at 1:58 pm to LSUchuck
One might also ask, if the government is so gungho about solar-generated electricity, why didn't it simply take all the money it spent in tax rebates and build a single giant solar panel facility. Presumably this would've been much more efficient in terms of kwH/$, not to mention it would have provided a public benefit instead of a benefit limited to the private owners of solar panels. I mean, I can guess why, but I'm wondering if there's a good reason, as opposed to the ones which immediately spring to mind.
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