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Posted on 3/2/17 at 3:31 pm to
Posted by Iowa Golfer
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Posted on 3/2/17 at 3:31 pm to
IPO was $17 first offer to best customers. E Trade offered me some (300 shares max) at 20.25, and I got nothing offered from IB. I reserved 300 at 20.25. 300 executed at 22 and change, not 20.25, and I sold almost immediately for $24 and change.

What a joke E Trade is. Insider game. Rigged. To borrow some phrases from our President. I'm not an insider, and this particular IPO game wasn't rigged in my favor.
This post was edited on 3/2/17 at 3:32 pm
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 3/2/17 at 3:37 pm to
quote:

barry


That's the most concise and easy description of an first day of an IPO I've ever read. Good work.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 3/2/17 at 3:40 pm to
quote:

I reserved 300 at 20.25. 300 executed at 22 and change, not 20.25,


If they locked you in at 20.25, how did they sell it to you at 22?
Posted by 19thHole
Working on my TPS reports
Member since Dec 2007
4908 posts
Posted on 3/2/17 at 3:49 pm to
Absolutely rigged

I worked on ways to get in early shares for months in expectation for today, learned how rigged the game really is with these IPOs

Annoying
Posted by Iowa Golfer
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Member since Dec 2013
10230 posts
Posted on 3/2/17 at 3:51 pm to
I don't know. I assumed they had shares at below what they offered them to me at. There might be something in their IPO offering that gives them wiggle room. I pm'd them and have asked this. It's only $300, but still, I can envision a scenario where I could have gotten royally screwed on a different offering. I think they screwed me, and I think they did it 100% legally.

As it was, I watched it, and I was going to sell at about a $2 gain per share anyway.
Posted by cuyahoga tiger
NE Ohio via Tangipahoa
Member since Nov 2011
5838 posts
Posted on 3/2/17 at 4:34 pm to
IG...did they offer them to you out of the blue or did you request? Thanks
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 3/2/17 at 4:43 pm to
quote:

I pm'd them and have asked this.


If they give you a legit answer, please share with us.

I mean, this seems to run completely against all the "fiduciary duty" stuff that is all the rage these days.
Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
10230 posts
Posted on 3/2/17 at 5:03 pm to
I didn't get the offer through their IPO center. They called me and asked if I'd like to reserve 300 shares at $20.25. So maybe it wasn't an actual IPO. It wasn't the IPO price. I asked them to reserve, they said I'd have to follow a link, and read the disclaimer. Which of course I didn't. I also asked for the shares to be immediate sold at $22.25, and they told me I need to wait to see if my reserve executed and enter the sell myself.

So the trading kicks off sometime between 11 and 1130. I think EST, but don't recall. I don't see any execution, and there is no pending order in their system. I call them. Their telephones are jammed. I usually get through to their "elite trading desk", whatever that is, but when I finally get through I'm with customer service. So while I'm asking questions, I get a notification that I bought 300 at $22 something. I sell while I'm talking to her. The shares are gone immediately and about a 5 minute delay before I receive confirmation.

Whats odd is that the $20.25 wasn't reserved for me, if it was an order of some of their proprietary shares that they some =how got, the price blew through at opn, never touched $20.25, opened at $24. So that part makes no sense to me. But when I put in a sell, it doesn't blow through that for a higher price, but executes. I looked again, and it looks like it pended slightly under $24, and a bunch of selling almost immediately.

In the next couple of days I'm going to go through their disclaimer and see what was actually offered to me. Usually their IPO center is junk. My offers are add on offerings, and companies I've never heard of. They called one other time. WYNN's IPO, which I actually got at the IPO offered price.
Posted by cuyahoga tiger
NE Ohio via Tangipahoa
Member since Nov 2011
5838 posts
Posted on 3/2/17 at 5:41 pm to
quote:

They called me and asked


thanks
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Member since Jul 2009
37137 posts
Posted on 3/2/17 at 5:54 pm to
Sounds to me like it wasn't part of the IPO after all, but maybe just a setup sale for whichever of their customer DID get an IPO offer? In other words, you were the second (or third or whatever) person to touch those shares. Having it not go through their IPO center also causes me to think that.

Hopefully the disclaimer says something that makes sense. I'd be annoyed though if their caller indicated or somehow led you to believe it would be at the offering price and then they laid back on a disclaimer. Again, fiduciary duty.
Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
10230 posts
Posted on 3/2/17 at 6:09 pm to
No, they said $20.25 and I knew the IPO was $17.00. But they also said only 300 shares. I figured they agreed to buy some at maybe $19 from one of their customers and wanted to turn it, or at least lock in some profit. I guess that's legal. I don't know.

I made some pocket change. Then this afternoon I found out how much I have to pay the state of Iowa and the Dept. of Treasury. And I'm not even angry, I'm just exhausted, and understand I'm a small time guy who has had to scratch for every bit of financial success I've ever had, and small time guys tend to get screwed on taxes and by large financial institutions. Maybe not screwed, but the uber rich get richer, and they don't let you in that club very easily. So they threw me a $550 bone today. Big whoop.

It will all look different tomorrow, and I'll be back to positive, but there are some days that I have no idea why I work as hard as I do, and I wonder if it's worth it.

There was a lot of money made today on SNAP, and I should probably be grateful I got thrown a bone, but I'm pretty burnt out between taxes and E Trade's crap right now.
Posted by HYDRebs
Houston
Member since Sep 2014
1241 posts
Posted on 3/3/17 at 9:41 am to
That was a fun and easy 10%> gain over the last 2 days.
Posted by Rust Cohle
Baton rouge
Member since Mar 2014
1954 posts
Posted on 3/3/17 at 10:00 am to
I've always heard executions are slow, especially for robinhood. I hear they have several brokers it goes trough and they shave off pennies on the transaction.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56396 posts
Posted on 3/3/17 at 10:43 am to
Sold at 29.15 an hour ago. If it dips enough later today, I'm buying it again.
Posted by dabigfella
Member since Mar 2016
6687 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 8:38 am to
back to back -10% days lol just imagine what happens when their lockup period hits
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 8:52 am to
quote:

If it dips enough later today, I'm buying it again.


Posted by LSUneaux
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Member since Mar 2014
4490 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 10:56 am to
Well this stock is dead.
Posted by dabigfella
Member since Mar 2016
6687 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 12:21 pm to
guys who bought friday down a quick 30% lol
Posted by SouthOfSouth
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Member since Jun 2008
43456 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 12:35 pm to
quote:

Can Snapchat be the central nervous system of the world and become a verb?


I agree that snapchat doesnt seem to have a very good model for serious profitability, it's already used as a verb...
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