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Should we front run MSOS?

Posted on 12/31/23 at 11:36 am
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
37695 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 11:36 am
As you guys know, I really like to push hard on what I call asymmetrical betting (i.e. BTC). A bet where the chances of a 50% haircut are the same as a 10x-20x.

About a week ago, Biden pardoned thousands on Marijuana related charges. I really believe this was a prequel to something bigger/ a test of some sorts to collect data for the election.

That brings us to our bet.

MSOS - This is a Cannabis ETF that is down from a $50 high to around $7 right now.

If nothing happens and I am wrong, this ETF stays flat. If he decriminalizes it to fire up the base, this thing is going to 10x-20x.

I bring this to you for awareness and discussion.

What holes do you see in this logic and/or trade?

Posted by gizmoflak
Member since May 2007
11659 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 11:39 am to
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
37695 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 11:45 am to
Another great article related to this trade.

LINK

It's going to happen. His base will eat this up.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72538 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 2:09 pm to
quote:

His base will eat this up.




typical idiots
Posted by skewbs
Member since Apr 2008
2000 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 6:31 pm to
Why is the downside that it remains flat? If I buy today, and it re-tests the August 2023 lows and can't bounce back, that's approx. a 30% loss.

What is your time horizon for holding and selling? I see the election mentioned (Nov 2024).
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
37695 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 8:07 pm to
1 year.

Basically a play on politics.

If they make it a big campaign issue it could 10x. If it’s not, like you said it remains flat to a 30% drop.

Asymmetrical bet.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84748 posts
Posted on 1/3/24 at 10:23 pm to
Just because it was once a lot higher is not in and of itself a great reason to buy something. Many of the stocks in the fund are probably going to zero.
This post was edited on 1/3/24 at 10:24 pm
Posted by Ostrich
Alexandria, VA
Member since Nov 2011
8730 posts
Posted on 1/3/24 at 10:58 pm to
quote:

I really believe this was a prequel to something bigger/ a test of some sorts to collect data for the election.


The President doesn't have the power to decriminalize Marijuana unilaterally. And almost literally nothing will pass Congress this year.

A good brief by the Congressional Research Service

Similar to canceling student loans before the last election, I could see him trying to change the CSA by executive order ahead of November 2024. But I think it'd be struck down in court, again. For investing purposes this would give you enough time to get in and get out I suppose
This post was edited on 1/3/24 at 11:08 pm
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
37695 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 5:47 am to
Good article. What about just getting the DEA to change the classification?

It looks like that is already in the works.

But you do bring up a good point about congress doing nothing this year.
Posted by whodatigahbait
Uptown
Member since Oct 2007
1749 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 4:22 pm to
quote:

What holes do you see in this logic and/or trade?


I don't see 10x-20x.

The $50 high was never based in fundamentals, so you can't really use that as PT to get back to.

A lot depends on what "legalization" looks like.

Does it fix 280E?

Does it allwo for inter-state commerce.

The Cannabis companies have lots of financial/operational issues to get past until they are profitable. And until then it will be hard for it to be truly investable.
This post was edited on 1/4/24 at 4:25 pm
Posted by JetsCoach
Bossier City
Member since Dec 2017
769 posts
Posted on 1/15/24 at 4:52 pm to
quote:

I bring this to you for awareness and discussion.


Or could it be you're hyping a stock you own?
Posted by thatguy777
br
Member since Feb 2007
2384 posts
Posted on 1/15/24 at 7:13 pm to
I don’t pay much attention to weed stocks but a better trade would be to just buy the best in class marijuana company that’s publicly traded. Then buy puts on the etf, hedge, since a lot of those companies are likely trash. If this idea you have comes to fruition, most of the big time players will look for that best in class company to put money on.
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
37695 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 1:12 pm to
Up almost 40% on this trade. Did anyone else join in?

Posted by blackoutdore
Nashville
Member since Jun 2013
247 posts
Posted on 2/11/24 at 8:55 pm to
Conservatives win in the Fall. A anti-weed agenda gets developed as a reaction to undoing everything the dems have done. Weed is outlawed. Your bet goes to zero.
Posted by CajunTiger92
Member since Dec 2007
2820 posts
Posted on 2/11/24 at 10:33 pm to
quote:

Up almost 40% on this trade. Did anyone else join in?


I jumped in after the news broke last summer. Up 55%.

ETA: Make that up 47% after today. LOL
This post was edited on 2/12/24 at 5:57 pm
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