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re: Setting up a bank account in the Cayman Islands?

Posted on 3/19/19 at 1:49 pm to
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 3/19/19 at 1:49 pm to
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Maybe this is just Hussss in an alter ego, lol
It's possible I guess but if it is, he's lying about his age.

Hussss posted he's 43 and the poster in this thread says he's 35.
Posted by TLOTT
Member since Mar 2019
82 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 9:22 pm to
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Back to OP: you claim to have more in common w/Eastern Europeans than with your fellow Americans. What? Seriously? Have you spent any time there? You are seriously idealizing a broad swath of the world that only recently emerged from authoritarian, centrally controlled government. Standards of living, attitudes toward government, beliefs about private sector investment, the level of govt involvement in private citizens' lives--these areas vary widely from country to country. Take Poland, for example. It's only been a democracy since 1989. It's been a member of the European Union since 2004. If you dislike gov't intervention, then perhaps an EU country isn't your "last resort" of choice. It ranks something like 26th on the global food security index....


I did spend a week in Poland a few years back, absolutely fell in love with the country. And I completely disagree with your assessment.

As someone who is White, Catholic and Conservative I felt more at home in Poland than in the U.S. Poland, unlike the U.S., is a majority Catholic country and they aren't afraid to show their love of their religion. Poland, unlike the U.S., has also shown how much they love and will protect their culture. Poland (and other Eastern European countries), unlike Western Europe, are fighting back the Muslim invasion. Poland is also a Conservative country that will fight to stay conservative.

You talk about them being former Communist countries. I look at that as more of a positive than a negative. Anyone in their 30s or older remembers or was at least affected by the failure of the Soviet Union. They have seen Communism up close and I have a feeling they will fight with every last breath to prevent Communism from taking over Poland again. A Communist has about as much of a chance winning an election in Poland as a Neo-Nazi has of winning an election in Germany.

Poland has already gone through Communism and come out the other side. The U.S. still sadly has to make that journey, which means economically the worst days are ahead for the U.S.
Posted by TLOTT
Member since Mar 2019
82 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 9:26 pm to
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I've lived and worked more than a decade in Eastern European countries (Ukraine, Austria, Moldova, Bosnia, Serbia, Croatia and Bulgaria).

The very concept of democracy is still new to them and they're not very good at it.

There's no way you have more in common with those countries than you do with our own country.


I am White. Poland is majority white, the U.S. will not be in the very near future.

I am Catholic. Poland is majority Catholic, the U.S. is not.

I am Conservative. Poland suffered from Communism for many years and know its true evils. Polish people are Conservative and will not go back to Communism. Americans do not understand the true evils of Communism and will bring Communism to the U.S.

Polish people are more polite, they are more down to Earth and they aren't as vain as Americans. Never mind the fact their women are better looking and have more personality. They also love tennis, a sport I play, so I would have so many more people to play with. I have met several beautiful women from Poland and they all played tennis, so I think I would have a lot more success with the ladies there. :)
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72509 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 10:09 pm to
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I am Catholic.


me too so what? this is the money board

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Poland is majority Catholic


so is the philippines and italy and croatia so what?

look man, you have went WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY off topic here

just make your choice and move on ok? good luck

now this thread needs to die
This post was edited on 3/20/19 at 10:12 pm
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80185 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 10:23 pm to
OP is one of those incel dudes who will run over a bunch of Muslim chicks with his car on the sidewalk to keep America pure
This post was edited on 3/20/19 at 10:24 pm
Posted by Brummy
Central, LA
Member since Oct 2009
4497 posts
Posted on 3/21/19 at 8:33 am to
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I did spend a week in Poland a few years back, absolutely fell in love with the country

A whole week you say? That's definitely a solid basis upon which to make such a life-altering decision. I don't see what could go wrong here.
Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
10229 posts
Posted on 3/21/19 at 8:36 am to
The banking system is strong and liquid, with few bank failures. A significant percentage of assets are required to be backed by US treasuries.

This is somewhat evidenced by large US insurers, and syndicates domiciling captive insurers there. Of which I am a part of 3.

Individually, there are two reporting requirements, and neither are onerous. I can't speak to what the captive insurers have to do, but I know we comply.

I found the comments interesting as I do business there legally. As do a large number of American corporation.

One statistic cited was the bank failure rate. It concerned me enough to first attempt to do a simple Google search, and the next day place a couple of telephone calls. I was able to find one bak failure, and that bank was involved in securities fraud.

I'd appreciate a link on the bank failure rate, if one exists.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 3/21/19 at 8:55 am to
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I'd appreciate a link on the bank failure rate, if one exists.
Oh, one exists alright. In fact it was the first link on the list I got when I googled "bank failures in the Cayman Islands."

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There are currently 149 banks operating in the Cayman Islands, 70 banks were recently closed.
LINK
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 3/21/19 at 8:55 am to
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I am White. Poland is majority white, the U.S. will not be in the very near future.



Well, I didn't want to make the implication, but then you went and did it yourself.


Good luck in Poland.
Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
10229 posts
Posted on 3/21/19 at 9:07 am to
Thanks for the link. I'll check to see which of the closed banks have failed, as opposed to consolidated.

For example, Citi Bank's CitiTrust Caymen Islands. I've not read where Citi Bank's operations in the Caymen Islands have failed, but it certainly looks like a couple of their subsidiaries there have closed.
This post was edited on 3/21/19 at 9:10 am
Posted by lsujro
north of the wall
Member since Jul 2007
3919 posts
Posted on 3/21/19 at 9:11 am to
For whatever reason, I'd say 1/3 of the total banks on the island recently closing is pretty alarming.
Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
10229 posts
Posted on 3/21/19 at 9:24 am to
Yes, but not for the reasons that are hinted on here. They have always reported tax fraud and illegal activity. It became more enforced in the last decade. About that time, several US Banks grew concerned about their involvement is potential illegal activities, and closed shop. In many instances, reopening the same shop in Spain.

The question is why did some US entities that were domiciled in the Caymen Islands grow concerned, while other were not concerned about being involved in illegal activity?

Back to point, there is really no documentation about 1 out of 3 Cayman Islands banks failing, becuase that is simply not true. Closing, for whatever reason, and failing are tow different things. The US presence in the Caymen Island is fairly large, and I believe they are the second largest purchaser of short term US Treasuries, although it's been a while since I read through our annual reports.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 3/21/19 at 9:24 am to
Another link on the list I got says:
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There is no deposit guarantee scheme in the Cayman Islands: in the case of Butterfield Bank (Cayman) Limited failure its depositors will not get any compensation.
LINK

The Cayman banks became famous as active money laundering facilitators.

I'm not interested enough in the banks "closed" there to research the reason they were closed but I suspect many of them were closed due to their proven money laundering activities.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 3/21/19 at 9:30 am to
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Closing, for whatever reason, and failing are tow different things.
True. The real question becomes were the depositors of the "closed" banks made whole or did they suffer losses as a result of the closings?

If they did suffer losses, does it make them feel better if someone tells them their bank didn't "fail" but was just "closed"?
Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
10229 posts
Posted on 3/21/19 at 9:45 am to
The germane question is are banks and financial institutions domiciled in the Cayman Islands safe. If they were not, I highly doubt the two multinational banks that are in one of the captives I'm involved in for a layer of their liability would trust their money there. Or the reinsures would take us on. That's anecdotal. It's not as if the risk management department for US Bancorp is infallible. Large bank's judgment is sometimes very poor.

What is not anecdotal is that there are no unusual reports of bank failures, and their investments in US Treasuries. Some of which is mandated by their banking laws.

I got involved in this conversation becuase it concerned me. My concern was unwarranted. To tie this back to the OP, I'm not sure how an extremely large purchaser of US Treasuries, as is the Cayman Islands banking system, would be a hedge against the US. The deposits there are not insured (guaranteed is more accurate) like the FDIC here. But if one wants to crawl down that rabbit hole, we could have a discussion about the financial viability of the FDIC. If not for the implicit promise of a bailout, that program, much like NFIP, or underground storage tanks in certain states, is essentially bankrupt.
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
28714 posts
Posted on 3/21/19 at 9:54 am to
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I want to take precautions in case idiots like Kamala Harris and AOC actually get real power I decide I need to get out of the U.S.

I am fully prepared to move to Poland or Czech Republic and fully prepared to denounce U.S. citizenship after the move


Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
28714 posts
Posted on 3/21/19 at 9:58 am to
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You (and all other Americans) will just wake up one day, check your 401k and sit in agony as you see your balance with a bunch of 0's. And the sad thing is there will be nothing you, me or anyone else will be able to do about it.

What are you going to do? March on Washington? The U.S. military will have more guns, more bullets and better equipment and technology than you. At that point it will be too late.


Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 3/21/19 at 10:12 am to
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The germane question is are banks and financial institutions domiciled in the Cayman Islands safe.
The answer to your germane question is "Some are, some aren't."

With proper due diligence, as you have apparently done, a person can feel comfortable placing his money with a bank in the Caymans.

But the average person on the street doesn't know how to do due diligence in evaluating the potential risk of failure of a bank.

That's especially true of Americans who have been indoctrinated to believe their deposits under a certain amount are safe because of government deposit insurance and thus falsely believe their money is safe in any "bank." The Cayman banks do not have deposit insurance.
Posted by Omada
Member since Jun 2015
695 posts
Posted on 3/21/19 at 10:31 am to
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indoctrinated

A strong choice of words. Would you care to elaborate?
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 3/21/19 at 10:31 am to
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I am White. Poland is majority white, the U.S. will not be in the very near future.

If this is a major issue for you as you contemplate the future of America, I'll help you pack for Poland.

Notice that you're not interested in the Phillippines, a country that is Catholic by law. Oh, wait, right, those aren't "white" people.
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