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re: SBA and PPP

Posted on 4/3/20 at 1:51 pm to
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
16665 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 1:51 pm to
quote:

Regions (I'm probably Fricked) is requiring me to submit a couple forms I don't have like IRS Form 940 and Form 941 because I work with an HR company and we are leased employees. Anyone know what to submit here?


Are you able to get anywhere in the Regions website? I keep getting a screen that says "Sorry for the inconvenience. Online Application Coming Soon"
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20635 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 1:57 pm to
quote:

Are you able to get anywhere in the Regions website? I keep getting a screen that says "Sorry for the inconvenience. Online Application Coming Soon"


Great...yes, i got in and submitted my application. You are correct it looks like its down again. I got about half my forms submitted and I was waiting on my HR company to get me the rest then it stopped let me upload them.

I'm wondering if they are waiting to accept more or will require people to reapply due to changes now...
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20635 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 1:59 pm to
quote:

Steven Mnuchin
@stevenmnuchin1
UPDATE over $1,800,000,000 #PPPloan now processed by
@SBAgov


FRIIIIIIICCCCCKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by snatchola
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
1145 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 2:01 pm to
Which bank?
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37308 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 2:04 pm to
quote:

FRIIIIIIICCCCCKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!


I'm on a webinar now and this guy from the SBDC is saying that Mnuchin is saying if it looks like they will get close to the cap, they will go back to Congress to get more authorization.

There is a rep from Gulf Coast Bank on this webinar as well, she says they aren't accepting yet. I am a customer of theirs for my personal banking, and while I like the people over there, their technology is trash.
Posted by donRANDOMnumbers
Hub City
Member since Nov 2006
16961 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 2:08 pm to
we are doing it through Whitney and they are requiring everything you would think.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158843 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 2:20 pm to
GC is the only one I've heard requiring a PFS for this loan as well

quote:

I'm on a webinar now and this guy from the SBDC is saying that Mnuchin is saying if it looks like they will get close to the cap, they will go back to Congress to get more authorization.

I mean I don't see how they won't have to
This post was edited on 4/3/20 at 2:24 pm
Posted by Catchfalaya
Member since Feb 2018
1942 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 2:42 pm to
I have a friend who works for GC, and he said the bank may lose money with these loans. They are only processing clients that do businesses with them already.
Posted by snatchola
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
1145 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 2:52 pm to
Anyone have any luck with Capital One?
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20635 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 2:53 pm to
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I have a friend who works for GC, and he said the bank may lose money with these loans. They are only processing clients that do businesses with them already.


How? They are making 1-5% origination fees aren't they? They are only 2 year loans and most will be forgiven. Seems like a cop out to me.
Posted by Catchfalaya
Member since Feb 2018
1942 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 2:56 pm to
I think what the main issue is the “What if”. What if the client blows the money on other things? Will the SBA then take the guarantee away from the bank. Then said bank is out of the loan money due to no collateral, etc. banks love collateral
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20635 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 3:02 pm to
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I think what the main issue is the “What if”. What if the client blows the money on other things? Will the SBA then take the guarantee away from the bank. Then said bank is out of the loan money due to no collateral, etc. banks love collateral


Ah, true. Well that's absolutely going to happen actually. Lot of companies are hurting for revenue and have a lot of expenses outside of what this payroll covers with little revenue to cover that.

The banks will be bailed out though, lets be honest. I don't know why they are sweating it. Make the loans and get your pay day, deal with the losses down the line.
Posted by Brummy
Central, LA
Member since Oct 2009
4525 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 3:10 pm to
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Anyone have any luck with Capital One?

My banker told me around noon that they're still waiting on updated guidelines and forms from SBA - not accepting applications yet.
Posted by Catchfalaya
Member since Feb 2018
1942 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 3:12 pm to
That’s what my friend at GC said the guidelines are not clear enough at the moment. Banks want Better legal language to protect them in case their is an application error or client blows money in other ways, and then the SBA takes away the guarantee.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20635 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 3:20 pm to
UPDATE over $1,800,000,000 #PPPloan now processed by
@SBAgov
mostly all from community banks. Big banks taking in large amounts but not yet submitted in these numbers! #CARESAct #SmallBusiness
Steven Mnuchin
@stevenmnuchin1
·
4h
UPDATE #PPPloan now over $875,000,000 processed almost all from community banks! Big banks taking applications and will submitting them shortly.
@SBAgov

@USTreasury
#CARESAct #SmallBizRelief
Steven Mnuchin
@stevenmnuchin1
·
6h
#PPPloan UPDATE $400,000,000 originated. Thank you #communitybank #largebanks
@SBAgov

@USTreasury
#CARESAct #SmallBusinessRelief


Hate to say it, but any bank waiting is gonna frick all its clients and lose a lot more business then just pushing them through. This money is gonna be gone quick.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37709 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 3:23 pm to
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Hate to say it, but any bank waiting is gonna frick all its clients and lose a lot more business then just pushing them through. This money is gonna be gone quick.


There is always more money in the banana stand if you own digital cash printers.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158843 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 3:23 pm to
this being such a giant cluster frick, I don't see any way this is a once its gone, its gone type situation.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20635 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 3:25 pm to
Yeah I agree. I almost waited to apply on purpose to let the system work itself out. May be better offers out there later.
Posted by TigerDeBaiter
Member since Dec 2010
10275 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 3:29 pm to
Yep. frick chase. They are lying sacks of shite. Saying “there is no place to turn in applications”.

I fully believe they are waiting this out until funds run dry and planning to blame the government.

My money will be moving out from there ASAP.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37308 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 3:48 pm to
quote:

I think what the main issue is the “What if”. What if the client blows the money on other things? Will the SBA then take the guarantee away from the bank. Then said bank is out of the loan money due to no collateral, etc. banks love collateral


SBA has said that if the borrower spends money on non-approved things, that the bank will be held harmless. Further, SBA has said they will buy guaranteed loans.

The concern the banks have is, what if they screw the initial paperwork up, and SBA pulls the guarantee? Especially since the rules are changing every hour it seems.

You have to understand, SBA is a complete PITA when it comes to stuff like this. The amount of hoops you have to jump through on a normal SBA loan is insane.

My guess is there is a bit of distrust right now between the banking industry and the SBA.
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