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Question about my taxes...

Posted on 11/3/10 at 10:38 am
Posted by LSUCrawdaddy
Member since Jul 2009
82 posts
Posted on 11/3/10 at 10:38 am
Have employer that would like to have the next paycheck cover that pay period as well as the next three. Those 4 paychecks add up to $7000. Out of that $7k, $200 is going into retirement (Before you ask why so little is going to retirement, I’m paying down debt). My question is, out of this $6800. How much should I expect this check to be after FICA, State, SSN, & Medicare? I’m married with 1 child.
This post was edited on 11/3/10 at 2:05 pm
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126843 posts
Posted on 11/3/10 at 10:44 am to
quote:

after FICA, State, SSN, & Medicare?
What is "SSN"? Did you leave out federal tax withholding on purpose?
Posted by LSUCrawdaddy
Member since Jul 2009
82 posts
Posted on 11/3/10 at 10:46 am to
SSN = Social Security
FICA = Federal Witholding
sorry about that, my head is spinning 1000 ways this morning
This post was edited on 11/3/10 at 10:48 am
Posted by Haughton99
Haughton
Member since Feb 2009
6124 posts
Posted on 11/3/10 at 10:48 am to
If you are paying down debt the amount going into retirement should be $0.

Posted by LSUCrawdaddy
Member since Jul 2009
82 posts
Posted on 11/3/10 at 10:58 am to
It may sound crazy but having the $50 per paycheck come out pre-tax acctually makes my paycheck a couple dollars more post-tax than if I didn't have the $50 taken out.
Posted by PlanoPrivateer
Frisco, TX
Member since Jan 2004
2786 posts
Posted on 11/3/10 at 12:01 pm to
quote:

If you are paying down debt the amount going into retirement should be $0.

He didn't say but the amount going towards retirement might be matched by the employeer. If the case then that is better then paying down debt.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126843 posts
Posted on 11/3/10 at 12:15 pm to
quote:

SSN = Social Security
FICA = Federal Witholding

"FICA" includes social security + medicare, also known as "payroll taxes" as distinguished from "income taxes."

Federal withholding = federal income taxes.

The breakdown of FICA is 6.2% for Social Security (Old-Age, Survivors, and Disability Insurance or OASDI) and 1.45% for Medicare, or a flat rate of 7.65% on compensation up to a limit of the first $106,800 of pay.

The income tax rates are as follows: (based on annual taxable earnings)
= 10% on the income between $0 and $16,750,

= 15% on the income between $16,750 and $68,000; plus $1,675,

= 25% on the income between $68,000 and $137,300; plus $9,362.50,

= 28% on the income between $137,300 and $209,250; plus $26,687.50,

= 33% on the income between $209,250 and $373,650; plus $46,833.50,

= 35% on the income over $373,650; plus $101,085.50.

The tricky thing you will have to look out for is your company's payroll software might look at the four pay periods as if it is for only ONE pay period and withhold income taxes based on that assumption. If it does, your income tax withholding will be greatly overstated, although your FICA withholding will be correct.

Ask your company how they plan on handling that issue.
This post was edited on 11/3/10 at 12:35 pm
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 11/3/10 at 12:17 pm to
quote:

SSN = Social Security
FICA = Federal Witholding


This post was edited on 11/3/10 at 12:18 pm
Posted by LSUCrawdaddy
Member since Jul 2009
82 posts
Posted on 11/3/10 at 1:47 pm to
I typed FICA while I was thinking about social security and I deal with social security numbers (SSN) all day long. I may have been typing faster than my brain could compute. The question remains what would the total deduction be after federal & state withholding, Medicare and social security?
$6800 is the taxable amount.
And yes, employer does match contributions.
Posted by Haughton99
Haughton
Member since Feb 2009
6124 posts
Posted on 11/3/10 at 2:04 pm to
quote:

And yes, employer does match contributions.


I take back my earlier statement then.. Even Dave recommends not stopping matched contributions while paying off debt. Its a 100% return on investment.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126843 posts
Posted on 11/3/10 at 2:22 pm to
quote:

The question remains what would the total deduction be after federal & state withholding, Medicare and social security?

What is your normal pay period length? Weekly? Bi-weekly? Semi-monthly?

You need to tell us that before we can compute an approximate withholding amount for taxes.

Also, what state? Louisiana?
Posted by LSUCrawdaddy
Member since Jul 2009
82 posts
Posted on 11/3/10 at 2:48 pm to
Paid semi monthly (on the 15th and 30th), Louisiana
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126843 posts
Posted on 11/3/10 at 3:12 pm to
In that case, all you need to do is take the amount from your last check 'stub' for Fed W/H, state W/H and FICA and multiply them by 4.

Subtract the sum of those amounts from the $6,800 and that should be the net you will be paid for the combined four pay periods.

I'll repeat what I posted earlier: if your employer treats the four pay periods' amount as if it is for ONE pay period, you will have a much larger amount deducted for taxes resulting in a much lower net pay.

In other words, if they forget to change the "frequency" of pay periods to reflect that the gross amount of your pay is for two months (semi-monthly X 4) and they keep the frequency at semi-monthly, the computer will base the taxes on the $6,800 as if that is your normal semi-monthly pay amount rather than pay for two months.

I've got to ask out of curiosity, why would your company pay everyone for four pay periods all at once? Are they going to pay everyone in advance for two months? Or are they going to make everyone wait two months to get their 4 pay periods pay?
Posted by LSUCrawdaddy
Member since Jul 2009
82 posts
Posted on 11/3/10 at 4:16 pm to
The employer wants to pay everyone in advance. The goal is to pay everyone on 12/15 for all of December and January. This will make January’s paycheck as taxable income for the 2010 tax year but only making the taxable amount for 2011 based on 11 months of income instead of 12. That is of course unless the employer decides to do the same thing again.
Posted by BaylorTiger
Member since Nov 2006
2083 posts
Posted on 11/3/10 at 4:35 pm to
Blah, needed to read whole post.


Hopefully your employer doesn't think it works that way for his books. I'm assuming they think this is doing you a favor because of the expiring tax cuts. Long term yes, short term no.
This post was edited on 11/3/10 at 4:41 pm
Posted by tigeryat
God's Country
Member since Oct 2005
2911 posts
Posted on 11/3/10 at 10:25 pm to
Put away your calculator.

If you are just looking for an estimate, you will net about 70 - 75% of the gross.

Simple enough?

Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 11/3/10 at 10:59 pm to
The withholding rates depend on several factors. It is impossible to answer your question without additional information. Why don't you ask your employer's payroll department. They should be able to tell you exactly how much you will net.
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 11/3/10 at 11:17 pm to
So your employer is askikng you to increase your 2010 taxes so he can decrease his. Based on your gross pay your taxes won't be increasing due to higher rates in 2011. They may increase due to loss of credits, but having less income won't have much effect on that. I wouldn't take the deal without some sort of bonus for the time value of the additional taxes you will be paying in 2010 versus 3011.
Posted by LSUCrawdaddy
Member since Jul 2009
82 posts
Posted on 11/4/10 at 10:26 am to
Thanks everyone. I know the only reason behind this move is to save the company on payroll taxes for 2010; or at least that’s the assumption of the employer. And yes, there will be a bonus and it better be BIG as this was the best year we have ever had. Total sales wise and most importantly, profit.
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